Buffalo white supremacist Terrorist

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I've seen several posts in this forum in which right-wingers suddenly went into defensive mode when it was announced that the Buffalo shooter is most likely a white-supremacist terrorist.

    Why is that?

    Of course, right wing extremists are now responsible for MOST deaths in acts of terrorism that happen in this country. But the concern among right-wingers doesn't seem to be how to stop them. Looks like it's more about finding "excuses".

    The fact that this was a right-wing extremist doesn't mean that THE RIGHT is responsible, of course. But racial hate speech, like the "Replacement" conspiracy theory, IS. Which Tucker Carlson and other white supremacists like him love to promote. And which this shooter mentioned in his "manifesto".

    And the main underlying cause is, of course, the gun epidemic that we have been suffering. Banning weapons that are designed for the SOLE purpose of killing as many people as possible in the shortest amount of time should be a huge priority. And I see no reason why even gun advocates who want guns for hunting or self defense, would not participate in this effort.
     
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    When one feels 'threatened', as in being overwhelmed by another group, the mode for most is a defensive position. This idiot chose an aggressive position.

    Defending one's existence doesn't make one a 'supremacist'.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    The shooter was defending his "existence"? That DEFINITELY goes into my "extreme right" outrageous claims list.
     
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    Collateral Damage Well-Known Member

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    What part of 'idiot' was unclear?
     
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    I seem to recall some conservatives taking issue with the FBI's determination, from a few years ago, that right wing extremists/terrorists posed the greatest domestic threat to America. No doubt this comment will elicit specious comparisons to ANTIFA. It's how they roll.
     
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    When it comes to terrorIsm do you know where it’s the worst? Sub sahara areas are responsible for 48% of terror deaths. America doesn’t even cause a blip on the screen. You do know gangs terrorize neighborhoods, don’t you? How many deaths have they racked up? I’m betting waaaaaaay more than these nearly invisible, never seen, right wing terrorists.

    We went through this before. The left is counting the deaths of people that have nothing to do with terrorism. In one case a right winger killed the guy hitting on his girlfriend and that was counted as a right wing domestic terrorist murder.

    Like I’m sure you are, I would feel safer, a lot safer, around these so called right wing extremists than I would at 2am on a street corner in Baltimore, St. Louis or Detroit.
     
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    "Idiot" or not, you CLAIM he did this because he was defending his existence.

    Sounds to me like a definite reference to the white supremacist "Replacement Theory" conspiracy that Tucker Carlson and others have been pushing.
     
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    Blacks kill many more blacks than white supremists. In fact, it is rare for a white supremist to kill a black man.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I don't think you're a white supremacist. Your insistance on repeating white supremacist propaganda to water down an extreme right terrorist attack, doesn't make you a white supremacist.
     
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    Where did I claim HE did this to defend his existence?

    Here's my statement, again, with directional highlights.

    "When one feels 'threatened', as in being overwhelmed by another group, the mode for most is a defensive position. This idiot chose an aggressive position.
    Defending one's existence doesn't make one a 'supremacist'."

    I don't listen, watch or follow Carlson, or anyone else on FOX, MSN, CBS or other MSM.
     
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    What propoganda?

    How many blacks were killed by white supremists in 2021? How many blacks were killed by other blacks in 2021?

    You will find that a black many should be more concerned about his black next door neighbor than a white supremist.
     
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    There you go. THAT's where you said he was defending his existence. Unless we were supposed to believe that by "this idiot" you meant Vladimir Putin... .or something...

    Again: calling him an "idiot" DOES NOT undo your claim that he was defending hist "existence".

    Feel free to retract your statement, though.

    You could spend all your life without spending a MINUTE watching Fox, and you would STILL be repeating Tucker's white supremacist propaganda. That is the nature of the right wingnut echo-chamber.
     
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    What right wing terrorist attack? I’m being told this shooter was a lib. If he is, would your views change?
     
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    Of course you are...
     
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    The shooter hated Fox News.
     
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    I can't speak for everyone, but a lot of the people that are one click right of center get tired of the broad brush strokes from the msm and political left and being labeled a racist every time some extremist goes off the rails.
     
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    You are stating more blacks are killed in mass shootings by whites than by blacks?
     
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    Apparently you are not clarifying between defense and aggression. Do I need to post M-W definitions for you?

    Exactly where have I supported White Supremacist anything? According to those who claim that Title, I'M NOT WHITE. But hey, don't let facts get in the way of paintbrushing people.
     
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    It does if you prop that existence up at the expense of others.


    Your simply trying to make a valid excuse for racism. Disgusting.
     
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    Your still trying to defend the defenseless. which is just utterly contemptible.
     
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    I for one could never support what this cretin did regardless of his race or beliefs. I don't think anybody is defending what he did. They are just involved in political jousting. That is what this web site is all about. We have gotten to the point where we attack the other political side even if we agree with it. Politics is humanity at its worst.

    I should mention that the shooter himself claimed that he was a white supremacist. It isn't a left wing talking point.
     
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    Well, it ain't rocket science...
    What?
    The post you are responding to seem out of context IMO.
    Hahahahahaha!
     
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    And apparently, people don't understand the difference between defense and aggression. That is very sad.
     
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    Are you trying to break some sort of record on how many unsupported claims you can cram into a few paragraphs.
     
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