Buffalo white supremacist Terrorist

Of course people will respond to the sweeping generalization fallacy that is sure to follow such a tragedy. Those that take the actions of one person and use it to paint white people, Republicans, and gun owners with a broad stroke are no better than racists.

 

And he's center left authoritarian according to his manifesto ease see my own thread on this for more info.

 

13 people were shot.....11 black 2 white... Why did a deranged white supremacist shoot white people?

 

Oh, he was a terrorist alright. A leftist Liberal terrorist describes himself as a fascist, a White supremacist and an anti-Semite according to his own manifesto.

Confirmed: Buffalo Suspect Wasn't Conservative, Also Despised Fox News, Greg Gutfeld, Ben Shapiro, Rupert Murdoch

But these leftists who jumped to blame Fox and Carlson did not bother to follow up on the facts in the case. A look at the accused killer’s extensive social media posts shows that he is not in any way conservative. Indeed, his manifesto did not mention Fox or Tucker at all.

He claimed he was an “authoritarian left-wing[er],” said he hated Christianity and also said he was interested in “green nationalism.”
https://www.westernjournal.com/conf...news-greg-gutfeld-ben-shapiro-rupert-murdoch/

Well, another Golem thread bites the dust in true fashion with fake claims of right wing terrorist when its known the killer was a self proscribed left wing racist.

 

Read the manifesto? The male Caucasian was a guard I believe, who tried to stop the killer. He was ex-police as well and a credit to the human race.

 

Probably because every time a white person kills black people they are automatically labeled a "white supremacist" regardless if they are or not and due to that the left invariably starts painting broad brush strokes blaming Republicans, conservatives, and everyone else that doesn't adhere to leftwing ideology as if they condone and want these types of things. So yeah, people get defensive. Duh.

Suggestions have been made ad nauseum. Leftists always ignore, disregard, make excuses and continue to blame.

What is your obsession with Tucker Carlson? I've seen you post about him more than the next 5 left leaning posters on this forum combined.

In any case, you claim the underlined part....but rarely do I see such from you. About the only time I see it is so that you can say "lookie here! I'm not talking about ALL of those on "The Right". And then a few posts later or in some other thread you start using broad brush strokes again. And no, I'm not going to quote any of your posts to prove something we both know is true. Not playing your idiotic games.

Completely and utterly false. There is no "gun epidemic". Guns don't do a single thing on their own. They do not convince anyone to do anything either. In order to do that they would have to be alive. And their not. They're inanimate objects incapable of thought or action. Even a single celled organism can do more things than a gun. To claim that guns is the "main underlying cause" is nothing more than leftwing propaganda made for idiots that don't know how to think for themselves.

 

Maybe because they get this defensive whenever a white supremacist commits an act of terrorism.

Here's an idea: what would it be like if, when these terrorist acts happen, instead of repeating white supremacist claims like "blacks kill more black people" or stating that the guy was "defending his existence" or comparing to mass shootings in which black people were involved... why not just say something like "white supremacism is immoral, terrorism is immoral, and we should all do what we can to eliminate hate speech that emboldens white supremacists".

Of course, to say this, you would have to believe it. But then they shouldn't come here blaming some... mythical "broad brush".

 

Right HERE. We're talking about a white supremacist terrorist who killed 10 people who were just... SHOPPING... and your response is "Apparently you are not clarifying between defense and aggression". What "defense" are you talking about that has ANY relevance in this discussion, other than the one related to the white supremacist "Great Replacement" Conspiracy Theory that this guy used as an excuse for the shooting?

 

I must correct this. The security guard was also black. My bad.

 

Why don't you show us all your previous post before Friday about the Great Replacement Conspiracy Theory.
Bet you can't.
Have you commented on it before or are you just regurgitating what you heard over the last few days?
Lets find out

 

Huh? Because he's deranged. Forum rules require me to assume that you might be the brightest fellow in the block.. but that question is pretty dumb.

 

"deranged white supremacist"... Because he is a white supremacist... Forum rules require me to assume that you might be the brightest fellow in the block.. but that statement is pretty dumb.

 

no, but an 180 page manifesto might just offer a few clues.

 

Have you got a link to the whole manifest so we can make our own judgement?

 

I don't know anything about "automatically". This guy is a white supremacist terrorist, and look at all the extremists on the right who, instead of talking about this "Great Replacement Conspiracy Theory" hate speech, they come out talking about "broad brushes" and "automatically" and nonsense like that.

Start by denouncing the type of hate speech that motivates white supremacists, and THEN we can talk abut whether there is a "broad brush" or not. Which, BTW, is probably not a topic I have the slightest interest in, because this guy is a white supremacist even if you use the narrowest brush.

 

Subtle....not.

So, you want "all the extremists" to stop talking about "broad brushes" and "automatically" and just condemn the "Great Replacement Conspiracy Theory"? Something I've never even heard of. Unless you're talking about how white supremacists believe that they should kick all black people out of the US even by force if necessary? Is that what you're talking about? If so then its no use denouncing it. I've tried. They ignore it. Much like how you ignore 99% of a posts content.

In any case, you asked a question. I answered it. That you didn't like the answer and want people to stop talking about the things that your side is doing does not change my answer to your question in the slightest. Nor will it actually hide the fact that it happens. All you're doing is attempting to deflect away from it.

But hey, you know what DID work against white supremacists? Teaching the concept of color blindness. You know, when schools didn't single out groups and treated everyone the same. That was happening when I went to school.

As for "denouncing the type of hate speech that motivates white supremacists"..... I do. All the time. I always speak out against Identitarianism politics. They're the ones that LOVE making everything about race and groups. Something Democrats excel at even more than Republicans. Although thanks to Democrats, Republicans are starting to catch up. Only took them a couple of hundred years...but they're finally starting in on it themselves. I blame education for that.

Now...I wonder how much of my post you're going to cut......

 

HAH! You think he actually read 180 pages? All he needed was "white supremacist" and he was done. Actually all he actually needed was "white male kills black person" and that is enough to convince him that the person is a white supremacist. Doesn't even need a manifesto.

 

Fake News. It's From The Left That Get The ‘Great Replacement Theory:’ Great Replacement Theory is fueled by some woke progressives gloating about America becoming non-white.

It's a dumb concept, Americans divide more by class than race. But, apparently some of the Left managed to sell it to this killer.

"The Buffalo mass shooter calls himself part of the “authoritarian left.” He was influenced by the New Zealand mass shooter, a white self-described “ecofascist” who admired communist China. The New Zealand mass shooter, “explicitly rejects conservatism, capitalism, individualism and consumerism. ‘Conservatism is dead,’ he wrote. ‘Thank God. Now let us bury it and move on to something of worth.’”

"It is the woke left — not the right — that most often promotes the idea that America’s white majority will soon disappear due to immigration and demographic change, and that America will soon become a mostly non-white nation, where whites will lose power. Echoing Great Replacement Theory, Beltway progressives gloat that they will soon take over, due to old centrist and conservative whites dying off and being replaced by non-white progressives, amidst what progressives call “explosive population growth of people of color.”"

The same poison that the Buffalo killer immersed himself in.

The GOP, following the facts, has long realized that "white replacement theory peddled by some progressives was faulty, in that non-whites did not vote in support of Democrats as heavily as they predicted, so Democrats did not win the 2016 election, as progressives expected. Many non-white immigrants find the Democrat Party’s increasing wokeness and left-wing policies very annoying."

We all do.

"Polls currently show that most voters disapprove of Joe Biden — including most Hispanics. The Hill noted that Hispanics are troubled by “skyrocketing inflation and crime,” and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has privately recognized that her Democrat party has “alienated Asian and Hispanic immigrants with loose talk of socialism,” causing Democrats to lose seats in the House of Representatives in 2020."

It's probably time for some democrats to stop trafficking in racial hate before even more folks get killed. As for this killer, he clearly deserves to pay with his life for his hate filled crime spree. A fair trial followed by a prompt execution would serve justice and reaffirm that we are a nation of laws that does not condone this hateful behavior.

 

If you can forget about the political flaming this thread was designed for and stick to the FACTs, it shouldn't be so easy to get semi-automatic weapons, especially in that age range. He also had a mental evaluation the previous year for making a threat. I guess they didn't find him to be crazy at that time but the fact that he had to be evaluated should put up some red flags and make it harder for him to get a semi....just my opinion

 

The community where this idiot lived is 95% white and has been for its existence. How was he in a "defensive" position, defending his "existence"? He was not, he got brainwashed by RW extremists social media. Scary to think how many other young males with easy access to weapons and fragile mental stability are in the same position as we speak.

My son is 17, and he is heavily influenced by the Trumper movement, because his friends are. I don't even want to imagine which websites he visits that poison his mind. I am sure there will be many that will make this Buffalo shooter into some kind of martyr who sacrificed himself for the "good" cause. Just like there are apparently sites that idolize Anders Brevik. The internet can be a dark place, but it gets worse when good people fall into the trap that is set by those conspiracy websites.

 

Yes .... The fact the state police referred him to a hospital where he received a mental health evaluation is
an issue that was overlooked. That is not an everyday occurrence for the normal folks.

"“A school official reported that this very troubled young man had made statements indicating that he wanted to do a shooting, either at a graduation ceremony, or sometime after,” the same government official familiar with the case told The News.
State Police were sent to investigate and Gendron, under a section of state mental health laws, was referred for a mental health evaluation and counseling, the official said.""
https://buffalonews.com/news/local/...afe308f9c.html#tracking-source=home-top-story

 

Know why it often doesn't? I've heard for years that if counselors/psychologists were some how to be made to start reporting such cases then less people would try and seek help, so they resist any such law and often don't report. Not to mention there is no set standard to determine if someone is just venting or is being serious, as such its often subjective.

 

Never knew that is what it was called. I do remember people on the left often trying to troll me with it. Went along the lines of "ah you're just upset because white people are being replaced and will soon lose power!" or some variation thereof. Never actually worked on me though as I understand that the world has gotten much smaller and interracial marriages happen multiple (if not hundreds or thousands) times daily. As such I understand that eventually the whole world will eventually be just one color...brownish. Only wish I could live to see that day as that would truly be the end of racism.

But yeah, they seemed rather gleeful about it. All that did was prove to me who the real racists were. I mean come on...gleefully crowing about a race becoming replaced and marginalized? Seems to me that fits the definition of racism rather well.

 

Hell that's what it says in his manifesto he also said he didn't like Fox news and the rest because they hired to many Jews look at the manifesto. Look at what the crazy dude said instead sticking with your cherry picked talking points. He also hates conservatives because he thinks we're corporatist.

 

Why have several posters, you included, completely walked by this statement?

This idiot chose an aggressive position.

Young people are also heavily influenced by liberal leanings, displayed time and again in educational settings, social settings and governmental influences. I don't know how old your kids are, but late teens into the late twenties are all about shucking material goods and seeking the 'experiences'.

In general, each generation will find what they are most comfortable with. And then there are the extremists of any and all types.