Why do abortion rights people whine about a group of white men overturning Roe v. Wade?

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  1. DaveBN

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    I have to mirror the other posters’ sentiments of “Duh.”

    I have no reason to complain about the people making decisions if I find no fault in those decisions.

    Complaints and criticisms involving race or gender of a law maker tend to revolve around specific topics.

    Is a man deciding what a woman is allowed to do with her body? That’s pretty shitty. They are making decisions that harm people and affects themselves in no way whatsoever.

    Are white legislators deciding on behalf of black communities that they should be more heavily policed? That’s pretty shitty. They are making decisions that harm people and affects themselves in no way whatsoever.

    The same sorts of criticisms can be applied to wealth, age, etc.
     
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    One man's radicals are another man's saviors.
    My observation -- mobs or individuals supporting abortions are butt ugly, screaming, dressed like clowns, and vulgar. Mobs or individuals against abortions are attractive, even pretty, both well dressed and well spoken.
     
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    Not sure what you're referring to.

    Women can do whatever THEY want to do to THEIR own bodies. I'm aware of no efforts to prevent women from doing so.

    I don't know -- are they?
     
  4. Dayton3

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    You do know that most legal decisions do not directly effect the people who make them.
     
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    Actually, they're defending the rule of law. They're adhering to the Constitution, something leftists having been trying to destroy.
     
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    Why are you guys so obsessed with race? If you look at the national demographics and how any whites there are for every black person in America, its pretty even in terms of amount of whites vs blacks in the SC. Also they do get like 90% of the commercials now, so whats up with complaining about the race stuff?
    The problem with the left is they purposely avoid PROPORTIONAL DATA.
    It isn't your fault, it happens in left wing media too and when people watch that, they will also forget about the concept of proportional data.
     
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  7. DaveBN

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    I’m very aware.
     
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    You could write a book answering that question, it's a long list.

    Let's start with them lying to get on the court. The abuse of the Shadow Docket, failure to respect Stare Decisis again and again, ruling against democracy in the VRA case, damage to Rule of Law, and damage to the Court itself.
     
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    Just read Alito's draft opinion. It's spelled out very clearly, if you even care.
     
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    How's this for speculation. The draft opinion was leaked to gauge the level of outrage. Done so the opinion could be modified to a less draconian version just in case. Thereby somewhat diffusing the backlash so as not to jeopardize the midterm vote for Repubs.
     
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    I did a thread about it.

    The bottom line is that he is using religion, and that is in defiance of the Constitution, and sanity.

    That's why his arguments are weak to the point of being a joke. He can't openly say why he is overthrowing a large chunk of law (not just abortion).

    It's nuts.
     
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    So where did Alito invoke God and/or religion in his draft?
     
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    I just said he didn't.

    If he could, he could write a narrow opinion which wasn't the equivalent of throwing a bomb at Rule of Law...
     
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    You just said "he is using religion".

    Which is it?

    Sounds like an unsupported and unsupportable assertion.

    Perhaps you would care to substantiate that? I've seen historians challenge the history Alito presented and legal scholars challenge his legal/constitutional arguments, and I disagree with Alito on both, but you appear to be quite alone on that religion hobbyhorse.
     
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    So their behaving like people.
     
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    Racist double-standards are fun!
     
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    He's basing the arguments on the fact that abortion and other such issues are state issues, not federal issues. He's right, he's trying to protect the country from government overreach, and expansion of government power is exactly what leftists want.
     
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    Are you saying conservatives sit with their politely hands folded and a smile on their face when things go contrary to what THEY want? :roll:
     
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    Is there I don’t understand your post or you didn’t understand mine. Can you clarify, please?
     
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    You realize that democrats think Clarence is the black voice of white supremacy don't ya? I mean it's not like its a secret closely guarded in the inner democratic circles, they opine it openly on their pet media news/opinion shows. As for ms Barrett... well, you know they think she's the devil incarnate if they were actually religious and all... It is pretty funny watching what looks to be a pretty diverse group of folks create the decision they are so openly angered by...
     
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    Truth. Xoe Biden sure seems to have them enthralled....
     
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    Why do abortion rights people whine about a group of white men overturning Roe v. Wade?

    Well gee...off the top of my head I'm gonna guess because it will take away some women's ability to do something they've been able to legally and safely do for decades.
     
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    I guess you were joking, I didn't pick up on that.
     
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    Inclusive representation on the courts is really no different than inclusive representation in the executive or legislative. It may or may not impact how the decisions are reached. It will impact how those decisions are perceived and the respect in which they are held by the parties and citizenry affected by them. So, yes it matters.
     
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    Is RvW then not valid because it was all white men who affirmed the decision?
     

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