This Is the Southern Baptist Apocalypse

This is a terrible thing if its true, and everything indicates that it is. It is being reported by a number of outlets, and the one I used below is one founded by none other than Billy Graham. Its about hundreds of cases of sexual abuse in the church, and the efforts to cover it all up.

This Is the Southern Baptist Apocalypse
https://www.christianitytoday.com/c...n-baptist-abuse-apocalypse-russell-moore.html
They were right. I was wrong to call sexual abuse in the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) a crisis. Crisis is too small a word. It is an apocalypse.

The conclusions of the report are so massive as to almost defy summation. It corroborates and details charges of deception, stonewalling, and intimidation of victims and those calling for reform. It includes written conversations among top Executive Committee staff and their lawyers that display the sort of inhumanity one could hardly have scripted for villains in a television crime drama. It documents callous cover-ups by some SBC leaders and credible allegations of sexually predatory behavior by some leaders themselves, including former SBC president Johnny Hunt (who was one of the only figures in SBC life who seemed to be respected across all of the typical divides).

Allegations of sexual violence and assault were placed, the report concludes, in a secret file in the SBC Nashville headquarters. It held over 700 cases. Not only was nothing done to stop these predators from continuing their hellish crimes, staff members were reportedly told not to even engage those asking about how to stop their child from being sexually violated by a minister.

 

The people most likely to abuse a child like this is a family member, followed by some of these ********. All of them need to be removed from society in the most creative way possible.

 

Imagine how much worse this will be once children go through the sexual grooming for kiddies curriculum that Libs are pushing
Looks like the pervs in this article couldn’t even wait for that to pass
Sick bro!

 

Sex ed in school is worse than rape......? Seriously?

Sure sounds like its the church members, and even leadership.

 

It won’t be “rape”
It will just be kids asking for help with their homework assignment

 

Whatever. Thanks for stopping by.

 

Da troof hurts don’t it?

 

It is sad that churches seem to be such a magnet for pedophiles.

Shame the QAnon crowd is a bunch of dippy cultists and jokers. If they were serious about stopping pedophilia, I'd point them that-a-way.

 

I vote for an asteroid the size of the moon hitting the Earth.

 

Isn't it remarkable how reliable an indicator forced-birth fetishism is for sexual predation and pederasty?

 

Time and again we ascribe characteristics to a group of h. sapiens which are, when examined, false. The classic example comes from advertising, where we are asked to believe that sports figures are experts in evaluating and selecting consumer goods, from cigarettes to soft drinks.

There's no reason to believe that one group of executives or members of a board of directors is more interested in the truth and less interested in making their organization look good than others. It matters not whether the organization is a sports team, a religious denomination or a major corporation. This should be remembered when the group does, indeed, represent a religious function.

People, in toto, remain people, warts and all.

Regards, stay safe 'n well 'n remember the Big 5.

 

Pedophiles operate in plain site in every profession, industry and sector of life. They "blend" in. That's why they go undetected, if ever found out. The issue is not the pedophiles.

 

Church Sunday schools put them in contact with their victims, which might explain why such people choose to be in the church to begin with.

 

PL, it doesn't matter if they do that or not.

What the general public, seemingly mostly conservatives, aren't willing to understand is...

1. Teaching children about sex, bad touches, behaviors, comments, looks is the absolute BEST way to protect them from predators.
2. Teaching children that certain people are safe solely because of their skin color, job title, authority in the community and other superficial nonsense is counterproductive.
2. "Don't ask, don't tell" (borrowing that from Clinton) is dead. Talk, tell, yell, make some noise. It's the ONLY way to stop this from being swept under the rug.

But, all of that is meaningless if the adults in a child's environment blame and shame them, ignore it, pretend they are lying and don't advocate for them.

This is NOT a predator issue. This is an "accessory after the fact" issue.

 

I intended to expound on the "educating children about sex is NOT grooming them and conservatives are mudding the waters in ways they don't seem to comprehend."

My mother was one of 11 children and one of her older sisters died as a pre-teen by drowing. As a result, her mother would not allow any of the children to go near water. The circumstances of her death are unclear but the loss devastated my grandmother from all accounts. My father was in the Army before we were born and was an expert swimmer. Our mother tried to prevent him from taking us to the pool and he overrode her saying that "the best way for them NOT to fear the water is learn what to do when a problem arises." My parents had a couple of Summer properties with boats and it was torture for our mother because our dad, my sister and I would dive into the water and swim, race and enjoy it while she was wearing 2 life vests, anchored to the boat holding on for dear life if he was able to even get her to get in it. Most times, she stayed on dry land and just drove herself into a frenzy out of fear for us.

As a result, we are the only cousins that know how to swim, how to maintain control of an out-of-control vehicle due to inclement weather or blow-out, distractions and other hazards on the road, navigate financial matters and not panic in a crisis.

NOT educating people is the problem. It's when we leave our children with questions we don't want to talk about that they seek them from questionable (and possibly dangerous sources). Our parents talked to us about how babies are made when we were in Kindergarten and anytime we asked questions after that. We actually had an inside joke that our crazy mother loved those conversations a bit too much. We wanted her to shut up! LOL But, we didn't run out and bed every person on the planet because of it but we all avoided getting pregnant or getting anybody pregnant or stds unlike some of our cousins and peers. All of us graduated from college before we married and waited for years to start our families. All of us could afford the children we had.

Nobody has ever been harmed by too much information.

Many have been by too little.

 

I agree No, its not grooming, and when government gets involved, like it does on weekly bases in Florida, there are always unintended consequences. Forbidding speech never ends well. To call it "grooming" is just dog whistle BS and I have seen enough of that to last a lifetime.

 

And, a direct fallout will be MORE children harmed because everybody is now giving teachers side-eye. It's ridiculous.

Teachers have to go to school, practice in classrooms, obtain licenses, keep them updated, grade papers and write lesson plans on their own time, deal with crazy administrators and even crazier parents while very close to the poverty line in most cases (unless somebody is in an affluent area).

There are 75,098,543 easier ways to get close to kids for nefarious purposes. It's dangerously counterproductive to the work we advocates do for society's hurt children.

 

Southern Baptist members detail alleged grooming, sexual misconduct among clergy in new report
"There are plenty of reasons to stay silent in a situation such as this. But we must not be silent," one sex abuse survivor said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ooming-sexual-misconduct-clergy-new-rcna30081
But when she invited him inside her condo to escape the heat and continue their conversation, during which she said she opened up about the stress she and her husband were under at the church, he became aggressive, she said to investigators, as detailed in the report. According to her, he pulled down her shorts, made sexual remarks about her body, and then pinned her to the couch and pulled up her shirt. She said in the report that he groped her and sexually assaulted her with his hands and mouth.

 

I can recall when other religions had issues with sexual abuse. The Catholic church comes to mind. There have been several evangelists with sexual scandals over the years. It is a bad thing but it happens rarely but everywhere in our society. The Catholic church is still there. I think the Baptist church will be there as well. Apocalypse? No. It is something that needs attention and reform.

 

yeah, just forget the rightist and conservatives who sexually abuse children.

 

Yea........its the same religion. I dont blame it on the religion though, because Christianity does NOT encourage this kind of behavior. The Catholic church created their rules about priests not being able to have normal sexual relations. The Baptists dont have the same excuse, so I think its about something else, like abuse of power.

Its good they were exposed, because it will help reduce the problem, but these kinds of things always hurt the good churches as well as the bad ones.

 

And those right wingers will have a much easier time when liberals get their way in the education system

 

I suggest you find another way to apologize for the rights sexual abuse of children.

 

I suggest you find a better way to twist peoples words and go completely off topic
Don’t like your party being called out on their sexual grooming of children?

 

show me where I said I have no problem with it