A Challenge To Anyone

Good for you... make that decision for yourself and turn your gun in if you REALLY think that... Leave everyone else's gun alone. My gun hasn't shot nary one person... so don't hold it accountable for the actions of other people.

 

There is no "good news". A young mentally troubled man is dead; that's not good news.

I don't think there is a "simple" solution. But, since we refuse to consider any sensible gun legislation, we must become proactive in protecting our children at school; it's not going to be cheap.

First we need to harden our schools, every one. All schools should be fenced and the fence guarded by armed and trained guards with ONE entry checkpoint where all people are identified from an approved list and all bags checked. We have to make schools as safe as we've made our airports. Public spaces will need to follow.

 

Over 90% of Americans support "Universal Background Checks", it can't even make it out of committee.

That's not part of "Universal Background Check" legislation. It IS part of the slight of hand that changes the argument from something sensible people support to something no sensible person would support.

 

Then how do you enforce it? I would simply deny ever owning the gun. Since the government has no record of it, they can't prove anything.

 

Where is the win there? There are over 400 million guns in the US today, you're going to tell an entire industry they cannot manufacture their wares and no one can buy them? That solves nothing and puts people out of jobs.

 

Where did I say that?

 

I think I misread your post, apologies!

 

Obviously, we are talking about "going forward".

 

How does that change anything?

 

Your argument makes no sense at all. Every law can be broken, but we don't say we should live in a land with no laws because some evil dipshits broke laws.

 

But we do live in that "land" where laws can be broken and are and has been ... that is the point...cars, guns, drugs, human trafficking, etc ....people will do what they are determined to do. It was a very tragic he got as far as he did, make no bones about it.

The challenge from the OP was to make rules to prevent this shooting, and any shooting, from happening...There is no definite solution to this problem... the problem is the nut job from Texas... not the guns... Both weapons were purchased legally and Ramos, who had no prior criminal or mental health history, “had no problem accessing those weapons. Fix that problem... Getting more guns in the hands of sane people to combat the guns in the hands of the insane could be in the right direction. But that is my opinion, which is the challenge of the OP. I would think the two teachers that were murdered would have chosen to have a chance to stick a gun in the guys ear and ended it before he was able to kill more... the Border Patrol engaged him outside and where not given the opportunity to end it there.
The guy had a mission, he purchased guns , he was mentally not right (but not flagged with mental health history)...It’s the first thing he did when he turned 18, was buy 2 expensive guns and ammo...He worked the day shift at a local Wendy’s... The guns typically retail for around $2,000, and Ramos’ online posts suggest he also bought a battery-powered holographic sight that typically sells for around $725..... start there... in won't fix each and every incident but might put a dent in it..


Facebook “approximately 30 minutes before reaching the school
“The first post … said, ‘I’m going to shoot my grandmother.’ The second post was, ‘I shot my grandmother,'” Abbott said of Ramos’ critically injured 66-year-old relative, Cecilia, who was airlifted to a San Antonio hospital. She is still alive
“The third post, maybe less than 15 minutes before arriving at the school, was, ‘I’m going to shoot an elementary school,'”
https://nypost.com/2022/05/25/texas-school-shooter-salvador-ramos-posted-about-attack-on-facebook/

 

This is unequivocally false. We need to harden and seriously consider the security of our schools. If there were common sense security measures in place, this tragedy would have never happened. Full stop.

 

If it’s false then why haven’t we implemented any common sense security measures in every school across the US? These mass shootings have been occurring for decades. What are we waiting for? Hence why I said nothing is going to be implemented.

 

You are a fool if you think legislation would have prevented this shooting. The rest of your diatribe is common sense, the security should have been implemented years ago.

 

We have to start somewhere; it's a start.

 

I don't know the answer to that, but there's no reason it can't be done - and it has been done to many schools across the country. It's the logical solution to the problem. Sounds like people need to speak with their votes to me.

 

Apparently there seems to be plenty of schools that are finding reasons it can't be done given the number of school shootings still occurring. It's infuriating

 

"Well, there's no fool like an old fool." But, what's even more foolish is throwing our, collective, hands in the air and doing nothing. The truth is, since we haven't tired any, there's no way to know what "legislation" might accomplish. HOW come "my" answer is a "diatribe"? Apparently you don't like me to respond, even if you agree.

 

So you couldn't come up with anything to offer other than blame the "gun culture".

 

What is this "culture of guns" and were it gone tomorrow what would be different? You think all the existing guns would disappear? You think mental illness would suddenly disappear? You think all other means of killing other human beings would disappear?

 

Have you ever traveled in your life?

Never been to Canada, Europe, Japan, Australia?

Maybe you're too afraid to see how wrong your beliefs are.

In the past two days, I have posted over 150 messages on this topic.

And I have repeated my solutions at least 15-20 times.

 

There is nothing that can be done to stop all mass shootings. There is nothing that can stop all drunk driving, yet there are laws and restrictions when driving an automobile. I do not believe the rights answer of "well, nothing could have prevented this shooting, so let's do nothing other than pray and hope that solves it."

Simple question, do you support voter id laws? If so, why? Voter impersonation fraud has only been proven in a Court of law to happen on 0.00004% of every election our Country has had. Nobodies lives are at stake if some idiot commits voter fraud, yet I bet you are all for voter id laws.

 

Canadians, like most of the world's people, are more passive and submissive than Americans, but even Canadians are starting to identify the real problems from all the hype.

“TOP STORY, Nova Scotia’s Mass Casualty Commission was formed to obsessively probe the details of Canada’s worst mass shooting and ensure that such a thing could never happen again. Instead, according to the families of those killed, it has devolved into a “restricted” process that has “further traumatized” the very people it was supposed to serve.

This week, a law firm representing 14 of the 22 victims killed in the April, 2020 tragedy announced they would be boycotting hearings after commissioners allowed two “critical” RCMP witnesses to evade cross-examination.”
NATIONAL POST, FIRST READING: Why inquiry into Canada’s worst mass shooting keeps hemorrhaging public confidence, By Tristin Hopper, 5/26/2022.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/cana...eps-hemorrhaging-public-confidence/ar-AAXKU9j

 

If for you being submissive means that Canadians kill each other less than Americans, I agree with you.

A terrible drama.

Especially since this is something that hardly ever happens in this country.

However, following this mass shooting, there was a public inquiry.

The conclusions concern in part the work of the police but also the control of firearms, which will be tightened.

So, contrary to the US, when a shooting happens in Canada, there is a lot of action taken.

 

IOW: "VOTE DEMOCRAT TO REPEAL THE SECOND AMENDMENT!"

Right?