Lake Mead nears dead pool status as water levels hit another historic low

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  1. Same Issues

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    I am not from this area but have seen some YouTube video's from locals and fisherman on the lake. They state its getting pretty bad for lake Mead with some video evidence of how fast the lake is dropping.

    I would hope we are engineering savy enough to solve the problem for the water needs of the southwest, but I would suggest that there are just to many people demanding to much water for a solution other than people leaving until water resources can meet the demand.

     
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    Lake Mead hits Deadpool status:

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    lets keep letting immigrants flood our borders and populate California, Arizona, etc... you know for votes and ****. Who cares if we can provide water and other vital resources.
     
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    Good video describing the problem and showing historical level markers at the beginning. Seems like it is dropping pretty fast.
     
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    California doesn’t build their water infrastructure which makes So Cal rely on out of state resources. Plus I heard somewhere CA just shot down a desalination plant. And then there’s the electricity and where it goes. California never seems to plan ahead and this could possibly bite them.


    Here's how the energy is distributed, according to the USBR:

    • Arizona - 18.9527%
    • Nevada - 23.3706%
    • Metropolitan Water District of Southern California - 28.5393%
    • Burbank, CA - 0.5876%
    • Glendale, CA - 1.5874%
    • Pasadena, CA - 1.3629%
    • Los Angeles, CA - 15.4229%
    • Southern California Edison Co. - 5.5377%
    • Azusa, CA - 0.1104%
    • Anaheim, CA - 1.1487%
    • Banning, CA - 0.0442%
    • Colton, CA - 0.0884%
    • Riverside, CA - 0.8615%
    • Vernon, CA - 0.6185%
    • Boulder City, NV - 1.7672%



    • https://www.ksby.com/news/drought/l...ke-mead-mean-less-electricity-from-hoover-dam
     
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    Populate a desert and wonder why there isn't enough water. Seems silly.
     
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    It is, but we were able to engineer our way out of it for a while. I think issues like this will pop up more and more as populations keep increasing. The only way they are discussing resolving the issue is through some other engineering, when at some point if we just let the population decline; which would be unfortunate for a large amount of people, the problem will resolve itself in a way.
     
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    If we don't engineer our way out of mother nature, population decline will happen on it's own.
    We are good at engineering. But water is only 1 problem. Food is another.

    I saw a story very recently about GMO creating synthetic food in the future. Some we already have. Most processed food is synthetic.
     
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    CA isn't going to give water to anyone. Not sure why they can't pump water from the North West though. Seems like a logical solution and has to be cheaper in the long run than a desalinization plant.
     
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    The locals just need to fill the lakes up using their hosepipes, sorted.
     
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    Lol…when you take all the water for golf courses and lawns and the Mexicans only get a trickle by the time it reaches their border, you can expect more of those water guzzling immigrants to move north.
     
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    Nothing exceeds like excess.
     
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    Biden did that. See, that was easy.

    Now, seriously, this is, of course, what happens when usage of a resource exceeds supply, simple physics. Eventually, the resource will be depleted.

    It's too bad that we don't see the oil level in oil wells the same way, as a visual cue. It would be evident that the oil level in many wells looks the same as water in Lake Mead. The answer of Trumpers: Drill more, so that the remaining resource is depleted even faster.

    How silly would it be to say in the face of dwindling water levels of Lake Mead: Use more water. Unfortunately, that's the intellectual level where the political debate is at today. Humans in large groups can really be as stupid as a rock.
     
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    Yeah l
    ets ignore the elephant in the room of climate change and people who are not immigrants using massive amounts of water to grow almond trees and blame it, on immigrants

    Makes sense

    NOT
     
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    The odd thing is though, that it doesn't seem to dropping due to drought. The lakes around it are all at capacity. There are some ideas as to why it's dropping so fast but no one seems to exactly know.
     
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    We know exactly why the water level is dropping:

    https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nc/tr...erican-west-is-drying-up-before-our-very-eyes

    Rate of human water consumption exceeds the rate of supply (rainfall).

    It's like your pocketbook, if you spend more than you make, the steady-state money level in you bank account will go down. It's not rocket science.

    The answer is to curb human water consumption in the West. That includes agriculture, industry and private water consumption. Of course, now that the people have gotten used to (addicted) to the unsustainable water consumption, they cry when they have to cut back. It's expected human behavior. The same principle holds for oil consumption.
     
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    We are exceeding Earth’s carrying capacity, especially for the amount of energy consumed in the US. All other problems stem from this, including Lake Mead drying up.
     
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    I read a couple of years back about in the distant past, before the Southwest and California became part of the U.S., there were 150- and 200-year droughts. That since the Southwest became part of the U.S. it has been in kind of a rainy period. Apparently not anymore. Here’s one on California which I think applies to the whole southwest.


    https://www.mercurynews.com/2014/01...ve-lasted-more-than-200-years-scientists-say/


    Let’s face it, the area is way too overpopulated to sustain normal human activity when it comes to water needs. When it comes to mother nature battling mankind, man might win for a while, then he’ll get his butt kicked but good in the end. Mother nature will always come out on top sooner or later.
     
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    Pretty wild, the problem is pretty simple. All these shortages in food, water, fuel and all other resources is because were reaching a point of TOO! many people on Planet Earth and in America the Land of Plenty the higher the population, the less plenty were going to have.
    https://www.susps.org/overview/numbers.html
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    Be nice if people could use a Condom once in awhile instead of overpopulating like Rats and then have a mass starvation.
     
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    ……and there it is!!! :rock_slayer::rock_slayer::rock_slayer:
     
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    Going down like a white house intern.

    There is plenty in the Great Lakes. Pipeline?
     
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    Democrats hate pipelines
     
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    Water pipelines? Really?

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    Just one little problem:

    Lake Mead serves 25 million people, at 50 gallon water use a day that's 1.2 billion gallons.

    The Keystone XL pipeline, for example, was projected to pump 35 million gallons a day. Therefore, the projected pipeline to replace Lake Mead would have to be 35 times the size of the Keystone XL (disregarding the difference in viscosity of oil and water).

    Of course, there are the other 10s of millions in the West, who depend on the aquifer that has been drying out for decades.

    Math can be a bit$. Of course, it is not an unsurmountable problem, but it is going to be expensive. Are people going to be willing to pay up?
     
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