Ex-Florida governor candidate Andrew Gillum (D) indicted for fraud, arrested by FBI

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  1. WhoDatPhan78

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    Lock him up.

    Doesn't have anything to do with anyone's political views, so it's weird that people feel obligated to defend or gloat.
     
  2. Ruger87

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    Look at that. This one still thinks Gillum is gubernatorial material. Lol
     
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    Didn't say either man was gubernatorial material... cause neither is, except if you live the armpit of the country...
     
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    Since when do you do not?
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    Who are confirmed by the Senate and over separate departments from the Executive Office at the White House.

    THE BIDEN-HARRIS ADMINISTRATION
    Executive Office of the President


    Every day, the President of the United States is faced with scores of decisions, each with important consequences for working families. To provide the President with the support that he or she needs to govern effectively, the Executive Office of the President (EOP) was created in 1939 by President Franklin D. Roosevelt. The EOP has responsibility for tasks ranging from communicating the President’s message to the American people to promoting our trade interests abroad.

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    So what did Biden have to do with this?
     
  6. Ruger87

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    I’ll gladly choose the “armpit” over the butthole of Virginia aka NoVa lol
     
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    I didn’t say they were part of the executive office. I said part of the admin. You’re really reaching here lol
    I’ll just remind you….
    The DOJ and AG work for him he is the ultimate person responsible for such law enforcement.
     
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    Yes, presidents are supposed to stay out of DoJ investigations, unlike the last administration.

    I will tell you what I was told when the last administration used pardons for buddies. "The president has unlimited pardon power..."
     
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    Which one did Trump direct?

    And you would have been told that when the previous to that one and the previous to that one and the previous to that......................the President DOES have unlimited pardon power. What's your point?
     
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    Independence and Accountability at the Department of Justice

    I. Independence from the President

    For those who believe in a unitary executive, DOJ/FBI independence is a constitutional solecism. On this view, Article II vests the “executive power” in the President alone, and he alone wields it. That means that the President can do what he likes with his Executive branch subordinates—hire them, fire them, ignore them, order them to act in certain ways, and the like. The presidential authority to direct and control an administration is especially clear with respect to law enforcement and national security, the story goes, since the President himself has a constitutional duty to “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,” and is the “Commander in Chief.”

    This is a nice theory. Sometimes (though not often) I wish that it were so. But the theory has been repudiated in law, and especially in practice, for a long time. There are far too many examples to cover, but here are a few relevant ones. The President can generally fire his political appointees at will, though the Supreme Court has long upheld certain statutory limitations on the President’s removal power (including in the context of the Clinton-era independent counsel statute). The FBI Director’s ten-year term—through which Congress signaled that the Director has independence from electoral politics—raises the political stakes for a President who fires an FBI Director mid-term, as President Trump learned last year. And career civil servants below these senior political appointees (like just-retired FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe) have extensive legal protections against presidential firing.

    Those are the main “legal” guarantees of DOJ/FBI independence. They are very few, and they are not the most important. The most important guarantees of DOJ/FBI come not from the Constitution or statutes, but from norms and practices that since Watergate have emerged within the Executive branch.

    Every presidency since Watergate has embraced policies for preserving DOJ and FBI independence from the President in certain law enforcement and intelligence matters. These internal regulations and memoranda, and the norms they foster, acknowledge the President’s ultimate power and responsibility for law enforcement and intelligence while at the same time recognizing that in certain matters, the Executive branch needs internal divisions of authority that achieve a type of independence from presidential control. One example is the restrictions that every administration from Carter to Trump has placed on communications between DOJ (including the FBI) and the White House concerning law enforcement investigations and other matters. Another is the Special Counsel regulations that govern Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s conduct and termination.

    So still waiting what did Biden have to do with this? Did he order and investigation into Gillum? Did he direct Garland to investigate Gillum? Did he question witnesses?
     
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    Every single investigation into his associates. He made public comments about the deep state and how the judges were liberals. Would you feel it would be appropriate if Biden said all investigations into his son were illegitimate and the DOJ is settling a score?

    My point is why do you care about who Biden pardons when you didn't show any concern with the last administration?
     
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    At the time he ran he was the mayor of Tallahassee and his City Hall was under FBI investigation then.
     
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    If you had stayed informed you would know that he was the mayor of Tallahassee and his City Hall was under FBI investigation at the time of the election.
     
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    And remember it was so special that he was black... A historic first the first black governor of Florida.

    Well these historic first things don't seem to have a habit of working out very well
     
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    Have we heard from @Patricio Da Silva in this thread?

    Because if I'm not mistaken it was his thread the other day where he was asking why conservatives love Republican criminals and whatnot.

    So I'm just curious about his opinion here
     
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    Oh, I never said Dems are spring chickens, you'll nail one, occasionally.

    But my own congressman, a Republican, a couple of years ago, was convicted for corruption, he had to resign. But, Trump pardoned him.

    Much of my accusations have to do with criminals in the White House.

    Below the executive branch, it's about 50/50. But, the WH is vastly more significant. indictments.jpg
     
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    Good stuff, PD...
    Great post...
     
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    All your meme proves is corruption....

    All the zeros across the Obama years should raise a red flag for you. From the same guy that lied and told us that he would have the most transparent administration ever.

    Acorn, Solyndra.... Fast and the furious to name but a few of the well-known scandals
     
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    Cooperating with a witch hunt makes no sense
     
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    That’s Chicago lol
     
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    Ilol and being under fbi investigation proves guilt now to you?
     
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    What did ACORN do and what was the connection to Obama?

    Same question for Syolndra?

    What was the origin of Fast and Furious?


    Those words are burned into the minds of some people, but they can’t articulate what the actual meaning is. It’s like Bengazhi.
     
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    I haven't seen anything on Obama that you can't accuse other presidents of.

    But I've seen tons on Trump that you can't accuse other presidents of.
     
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    You don't wake up one day and find yourself under FBI investigation for no reason.
     
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    Yeah, the FBI raided Jeffery Clark.

    Somethin's up.
     

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