get your vaccination and your booster shot

You're close, but like so many things in life, "It's complicated".

Fauci and the rest were planning this for decades, at least since 2003. They learned their lessons from the Swine Flu debacle and recovered very well.

 

We need a sub-forum called Crazy Town, and that belongs in it.

"PF does not allow misinformation"

 

Ahahhah.
You can be the star of that sub-forum.
As you said, PF doesn't allow misinformation.
Any truth being conveyed through your perception is misinformation.
Or in misinformation, you perceive it as truth is the lie.

 

What you are NOT seeing here is sophisticated brainwashing efforts by the state and its media.

Bill Casey in 1981 touched upon what you are NOT seeing here: When everything the American people believe is false, we will know the success of our misinformation efforts.

You don't see it because you don't want to see it. Classic cognitive dissonance.

 

Wild Bill Casey?

He was on the periphery of the building of the Koch brainwashing machine. (That's what us intellects call irony)

I know the history, which is to say the facts. The CDC is one of the great accomplishments in the history of civilisation. It has saved many millions of lives.

Every president before Trump improved it. Of course, that's in the real world.

 

if it would that would be the only place you could get information because everything else would be where the narrative was spun.

Yeah it does you're allowed to call this gene therapy a vaccine

 

Sure, and Bill Clinton did not have sexual relations with that woman.

 

As I said, those are the facts of the matter.

This is maddeningly complicated before you get into politics and diplomacy, but before Trump, the CDC did some amazing stuff.

https://www.amazon.com/Centers-Dise...655993742&refinements=p_27:CDC&s=books&sr=1-1

 

That's nothing. I remember when doctors and the AMA and hospitals honored the Hippocratic Oath, both letter and spirit, "first do no harm".

Those days are long gone....

 

Only in your fantasy world.

 

I know you might not understand this unless Dr Muckraker has discussed it on his website, but the USA is not the only country in the world and many people in many different countries don’t have one inkling who Fauci is. Most countries have their own people who dispensed the covid advice/information so Fauci was of no concern to them. My point is — will you stop exaggerating.

Just a quick question, exactly what credentials do have over Fauci to make all the covid19 comments that you make? Do you have over 50 years experience in the field of immunology and virology?

Currently, there have been 6,346,207 deaths from covid19 around the world. Are you suggesting most of these deaths should have been attributed to something else. I know in my country, the statistics are quite accurate and cause of death was covid19 when a person entered an ICU with Covid19 and then subsequently died of multi-system organ failure brought on by the virus.

This is not gullibility, nor misinformation. The misinformation is coming from people who try to deny people have actually died from Covid19. Every country on the planet is not fudging the data. Why would they?

I’m afraid you are more than a bit gullible. RFK Jr is the biggest purveyor of — well — stupid misinformed crap. Even his own family members state:

As I have written above, the pandemic applies to more than just the USA. Can you produce some memo’s from around the world that state data was manipulated and misrepresented?

Ivermectin and HCQ have been shown to be useless in the treatment/prevention of covid19. If Fauci is destroying large quantities of these two useless treatments, good for him.

Ivermectin, how false science created a ‘miracle’ drug — https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58170809

 

Just a massive and monstrous conspiracy... no fear games going on here...

 

No, none whatsoever here. How about you? Gone out in public wearing a mask lately, carrying a personal bottle of hand sanitiser, doing a fist or elbow bump when greeting people? Who is in fear?
The latter is N/A for me, because the official narrative you bought, stinks of faecal matter. But you can't smell it. You have your face mask and blindfold on.
A conspiracy theory is a notion given by people in denial. Bet you didn't know that?

 

You just made up a massive conspiracy, so there is more than enough, with some left over.

Wow.

 

Well then, denialist. We'll just have to wait and see then, won't we?
In the meantime,

35 Conspiracies That Turned Out To Be True
8 Scientific Conspiracies That Turned Out To Be True

Soon, it will be added to either of these lists.

 

Actual conspiracies occur quite regularly. Political assassinations, scandals and cover-ups, terrorist attacks and a lot of everyday government activity involves the collusion of multiple people in the attempt to bring about a desired outcome. These kinds of conspiracies are uncovered by journalists, through whistle blowers, or official state-sponsored inquiries. The freedom of information acts have been really helpful in uncovering actual conspiracies.

Providing a list of conspiracies that turned out to be true is meaningless. There are tons of false conspiracy theories. There is a huge difference between an actual conspiracy and a conspiracy theory. An actual conspiracy is real, a conspiracy theory is something that might be true. The conspiracy theories surrounded covid19 have no actual evidence behind them and until they do, they will remain theories.

It’s illogical to assert that any one given conspiracy theory is true just because other conspiracies have turned out to be true.

If some plot exists related to covid19, then the existence of that plot is testable. Evidence can be produced from sources that are checked and the claims are verified.

For conspiracy theorists, the idea of a plot is not a hypothesis. The plot exists, it’s real, and no evidence is required. When there is evidence that there is no conspiracy, revealed by fact checks, this is ignored. Those who believe in the conspiracy du jour will refuse to read any information that might suggest there is no conspiracy.

So when you care to produce some verifiable fact checked evidence that there is actual conspiracy surrounding covid19, it remains an unproven conspiracy theory.


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Now, you don't have to bang on about this to me. Rather the member I responded to.
If you understood the context of my reply to the member, that would have helped. But you don't understand.
My point was to highlight a denialist wet dream is a conspiracy theory and that there have been plenty in our history that actually proven to be true.
You are on the money when you state, "When there is evidence that there is no conspiracy, revealed by fact checks, this is ignored." The only thing
I disagree strongly about the use of being fact-checked. Do you know that fact checkers are employed to give a biased opinion towards any given
narrative? So deniers can feel fuzzy and warm, knowing someone has their back with poor opinions of their own and actual bolstering of mis/disinfomation.
This is the basis of the style arguments, based on a biased opinion that favours the official narrative.

"So when you care to produce some verifiable fact checked evidence that there is actual conspiracy surrounding covid19, it remains an unproven conspiracy theory."

Not in my world, or anyone who can see and smell the BS miles away. As I stated above, fact-checking is a farce. It is for the ignorant and lazy rather than come up
with their own self-informed conclusions to formulate their own opinion by 'digging in the dirt'. Rather than believing someone who has done it (fact-checker) for them.

As for evidence, why would so many Drs, scientists and many other medical professionals bang on about the dangers and studies and the lack of testing etc, when all
of that is produced as evidence to support an argument against a denialist, why does all that have to be fact-checked by someone with no medical or scientific
background? BS. The evidence speaks for itself. When the evidence contradicts the narrative, that is a conspiracy, not a theory. A fact checker is just a life support
system for clothing.

So, why are there so many deniers who cannot see this when the evidence contradicts the narrative, that is a conspiracy, not a theory? So much evidence that outweighs
the official narratives and the sensitive narrow minds that don't want to comprehend the overwhelming fact, that they've all been F'd, royally. This is the nature of the
human psyche. Denial, confusion, disbelief, anger, bargaining etc.

The whole exercise was to prove, that conspiracy theories (as denialists call them) can and have been proven true in the past and that COVID-19 theatrics will be
added to those lists.

 

Umm, nice work.

 

Yup. Crazy, isn't it?

 

@UntilNextTime

A denialist is a person who refuses to admit the truth of a concept or proposition that is supported by the majority of scientific or historical evidence. So go look in the mirror.

To avoid this label, please support your beliefs related to the ‘plandemic’ that is at least supported by some kind of real evidence, not just Chinese whispers on the internet.

I have done some reading on quite a few independent fact checking sites and they approach fact checking with an unbiased scientific approach. I was expecting your comments regarding fact checkers because you aren’t able to even look at any information that might deny your views. You should engage in some fact checking of your own rather than just googling for stuff that agrees with your world view.

You totally missed the point of what I said, but I expected that and your answer only confirmed to me what is mostly understood about those who prescribe to the covid conspiracy theories.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denialism
You were saying...

As stated earlier, why are there so many why would so many Drs, scientists and many other medical professionals bang on about the dangers and studies and the lack of testing etc? No Chinese whispers there. Blindfolds off & earplugs out may assist greatly for the assisted blind & deaf.

Isn't it funny that fact checking came out in full force over the past 2 1/2 years. Fact checking for people such as yourself is like asking your examiner to give you the answer on a test. It's BS. Doing the hard yards yourself research. " The truth is not for all men but only for those who seek it." Ayn Rand

Both of us have missed each other's point, true, as for confirmation, the category of sheep is about to burst at the seams with one more added to the mass formation psychosis pot.

In time, those of the denialism faith will eventually see.

 

As you can see in your own post, you used the word ‘denialist’ which refers to what I quoted — https://www.lexico.com/definition/denialist

Blund, deaf, sheep, mass formation psychosis point, denialism. Is this your argument? Such lack of substance with mostly insults speaks volumes.

Fact checking has been around for centuries. The only way to know something is to find the facts. It isn’t BS. Suppose somebody told me that water is made up of 2 hydrogen molecules and 4 oxygen molecules. Am l just to accept that because to fact check it is bullshit. Nope, all reliable information available tells me water is made up of 2 hydrogen molecules and 1 oxygen molecule. Journalists have been doing fact checking for years. People like yourself deny fact checking because they want it to seem useless so those interested in learning what is true won’t do any actual fact checking. I suppose we could all just watch plandemic and take it as truth but looking at it, finding support, well it just isn’t there. Don’t you think it is important to view information from all sides? I can answer that for you — nope.

So one more time, with no insults, no moving away from the discussion — how about providing us with some substance of why you believe what you believe related to the ‘covid theatrics’, real facts as you see them — and then engage in a real conversation, go on I dare you. If not, then you really have nothing more to add, do you?

 

If you want a civil debate/argument then I implore you to view what I have provided, since you've asked. No like everyone else, just fob it all off.

Denialist, denialism. Both come from the same root word, 'denial'. It is poor grammar to state someone is a denialism. This is why I use denialist. The definition of a denialist is a revolving door. As it works both ways, your argument and mine. "A person who refuses to admit the truth of a concept"

This represents your lack of commitment to your own research or lack thereof. I have posted many articles that substantiate my claims, unfortunately, because they hit the nerve of those who don't want to know, that
there is damning evidence to support all such claims, consequently, the links and posts have been removed. More than 50 posts, were scrubbed. An instance where the truth becomes mis & disinformation by medical
professionals who sacrifice their lives and careers to give this kind of evidence.

Yes, fact-checking has been around for quite some time. Back then it was useful, it had its merits, however, it has been used for the purpose to forge mis and disinformation bias based on the narrative. One example here https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-british-medical-journal-story. I do my own fact-checking, by doing my own research and having conversations with like-minded people, and peer reviews if you like.
As for Google, they are Big tech, facilitators of hiding info. I steer well clear of Google. I use alternative search engines that don't use information bias.

You are poorly mistaken. I do consider both sides of an argument. That is why I take the stance on it as I do. I smelt and saw the BS after the narratives began their existence and transformed on a daily basis. Everyone, everywhere (MSM & bureaucrats) all telling different stories. It was rubber-stamped BS, or alternatively, COVID-19 theatrics.

Look through my posts, that still have links. If not satisfied, PM me and I'll give you everything I have. Be careful, it may give you a system meltdown (brain snap). I am being sincere if you can accept that.

Ohh, I have plenty to add. It's a matter of if the forum will allow it, which, as I've stated before, 50+ odd posts were deleted. As it would have been deemed 'snowflake' material. We won't stop here. I haven't even begun my stretching. Wait until I'm warmed up and done a few laps.
As I stated, "COVID theatrics", I was referring to the narratives used to fearmonger the masses into getting vaccinated, that is the mass formation psychosis. The Covid clot shots are by far, no joking matter. Many people sadly have lost their lives to that experimental garbage.

I have been doing this research for up to 18 months prior to the 'plandemic'. I saw this coming, do you think people who I told believed me? No is the answer. Now they're sailing a sinking ship.

Here are a few to start with. Buckle up, your interpretation of this reality will be challenged.

Governments Admit Using 'Mass Formation Psychosis' As Tool of Population Control
Pfizer’s Documents
(55,000 pages from the 80,000 that were under a court suppression order. Only to be ordered by the courts for their release instead of the 75-year suppression order. Why do you think Pfizer wanted a 75-year suppression order on 80,000 pages of their documents? Hiding something, are we? Sure are.
Robyn is one of 11 Australians who died after receiving the AstraZeneca vaccine. Her family speaks for the first time (What? MSM has divulged this information. Just one article with 11 deaths. How many more stories are out there that are not told and or suppressed?)
BANNED VIDEOS of VACCINE ADVERSE REACTIONS by Darrin McBreen
Pfizer Stopped Testing their COVID Vaccine on Animals Because they Kept Dying.
Depopulation: "500,000 Americans Have Died After The Vaccination"
1. Mass Formation Psychosis
2. Mass Formation Psychosis
Denialism From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For denialism of historical events, see Historical negationism.


Banner at 2017 Climate March in Washington D.C.

In the psychology of human behaviour, denialism is a person's choice to deny reality as a way to avoid a psychologically uncomfortable truth.[1] Denialism is an essentially irrational action that withholds the validation of a historical experience or event, when a person refuses to accept an empirically verifiable reality.[2]

In the sciences, denialism is the rejection of basic facts and concepts that are undisputed, well-supported parts of the scientific consensus on a subject, in favour of ideas that are radical, controversial, or fabricated.[3] The terms Holocaust denial and AIDS denialism describe the denial of the facts and the reality of the subject matters,[4] and the term climate change denial describes denial of the scientific consensus that the climate change of planet Earth is a real and occurring event primarily caused in geologically recent times by human activity.[5] The forms of denialism present the common feature of the person rejecting overwhelming evidence and trying to generate political controversy in attempt to deny the existence of consensus.[6][7]

The motivations and causes of denialism include religion, self-interest (economic, political, or financial), and defence mechanisms meant to protect the psyche of the denialist against mentally disturbing facts and ideas; such disturbance is called cognitive dissonance in psychological terms.

 

The bulk of your post is spot on, but your conclusion regarding Covid shows that you are typical in being poorly informed. Your conclusion shows that you have not read the work of David E. Martin, Robert Kennedy Jr, Reiner Fuellmich in Germany, and hundreds of dissenting scientists and physicians.