”In Florida, DeSantis’s plans for colleges rattle some academics” “In his efforts to remake higher education in Florida, Gov. Ron DeSantis has signed laws that alter the tenure system, remove Florida universities from commonly accepted accreditation practices, and mandate annual “viewpoint diversity surveys” from students and faculty.” “Desantis (R) also pushed through legislation he dubbed the “Stop WOKE Act” that regulates what schools, including universities, and workplaces can teach about race and identity.” “The board of governors for Florida’s public university system took initial steps Thursday to approve regulations for enforcing the law, with potential penalties including discipline and termination for employees who do not comply. The law also ties some university funding to compliance.” “Give me somebody that served eight years in the Navy or the Marine Corps. That education is going to be much more beneficial and pertinent than someone that went $100,000 in debt to get a degree in zombie studies,” DeSantis said.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/educa...ersities-laws/ Now does this challenge the understanding of college, advance education, as being a learning environment in which one takes responsibility for thinking through and applying what you have learned? Academic freedom, a well rounded education, an understanding of the Arts and Sciences? Or does it turn it into extended trade school, one whose curriculum is dictated and administered by the State? How would it effect exploration and research? Actually kinda humorous coming from a guy who felt it was necessary to attend both Yale and Harvard
So DeSantis is pushing for multiple viewpoints in Florida colleges instead of one sided indoctrination. Sounds like a good idea. Why would it not be a good idea.
Anything that removes diversity mandates is a good thing. And I’d be curious what these accredited practices are, because since it’s reported by WAPO, can’t take them too serious. Leftists have already deemed the SATs and just about every other standardized test, racist, so not exactly sure what they’re bitching about when it comes to accreditation. And Desantis has a point. We need a lot more useful trades being taught and a lot less Masters in Philosophy, Gender studies or African History, still living with their parents at 35. A solid plumber or electrician offers more to society than another idiot whining about how horrible and white our country is or systemic racism. Like we need more professional protestors blocking traffic?
Republicans have noticed a negative correlation between educational attainment and membership in their team. Especially in fields that teach critical thinking. Watch for them to push for more religion in schools, more manual labor / trades, and less in items that will position the nation to succeed on a global scale such as robotics, STEM, and programing. They desire to create more workers for their business and mindless voters that are easily manipulated through bumper sticker slogans. A very stupid man once stated a great deal about his party “I love the poorly educated”.
If liberals actually had the ability of normal people to acknowledge epic failures and self-correct, this wouldn’t be necessary. unfortunately, failure is never a referendum on their beliefs or strategy. Liberalism never fails. it only hasn’t been applied enough. So if they won’t do it themselves, someone will have to do it for them. As always.
How could "multiple viewpoints" be happening when the State controls what is taught and how it is taught?
So being exposed to different thoughts and viewpoints in and advanced education is "good thing?" I thought that was one of the purposes of an advance education, to be exposed to other thoughts and consequently learn how to make decisions on your own, not be spoon fed a State dictated curriculum with little flexibility beyond what the State wants you to have The Universities' accreditation, not individual students And you don't go to college to be a plumber or electrician
Sounds like a recipe and endorsement of totalitarianism, and what better way to do it by eliminating exposure to any varying thoughts
Made up claim with nothing to back it up Another made up claim with nothing to back it up Just an FYI, I think we have all heard enough fortune telling by Democrats in the last 6 years that have never come to fruition to know better by now. Another made up claim. This is all you have? Made up fortune telling?
So be exposed to "multiple viewpoints" as opposed to only State directed viewpoints is a good thing? Again, appears more of a recipe and endorsement of totalitarianism
No. College isn’t necessary for trades. But we need more trades. Too many go to college to learn useless skills. The system needs an overhaul. And going to college with people who don’t belong there because they were “accepted” to fill quotas is wrong. And teachers who are working due to similar diversity practices have no right teaching anyone. Scholarships given out to fill quotas is also wrong. Scholarship only certain races and genders are even eligible for is obviously wrong. Where I work we’re hiring a DE&I Director. Totally useless position and I don’t think a white male will be filling that role That’s happening all over the country. Useless people being hired to solve problems that don’t exist. And I’m sure any accreditation Desantis takes issue with is directly tied to DE&I policy. The practice is such a freakin joke. It’s the real virus.
Its a sound byte the left loves to use because they don't have anything else. Just like the sound byte of good people on both sides. They just take his claims out of context and start their meme wars.
No, multiple viewpoints are what education is supposed to be. Which is why the left wants to fight against it so hard. As per usual, they take things out of context to make a claim because they think Americans are dumb. Which is why you saw 55% of Democrats supporting DeSantis bill on grooming children. The left really hated that one so they made up a fake name for it. The don't say gay bill.
There is also polling and voting patterns but I do tire of sourcing facts for people that are either too ignorant to understand it or too cognitively dissonant to acknowledge it.
Well, the thread isn't about Trump, but believe me, there are easily hundreds of sound bytes Trump offered that are out there without having to focus on a couple, and this one isn't out of context, "in a speech to supporters, Trump touted how many different demographic groups he won in Nevada, declaring that “We won the evangelicals. We won with young. We won with old. We won with highly educated. We won with poorly educated,” before exclaiming “I love the poorly educated!” he said it directly to the camera (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-love-poorly-educated/)"
Nothing anecdotal at all. Colleges have been using AA for acceptance numbers and hiring for years. There’s a reason black students have a much higher drop out rate. Female acceptance and graduation rates have surpassed males yet there are still AA practices in place to INCREASE female enrollment even more. More female only scholarships. It’s not an accident. And go look up jobs in DE&I. These roles didn’t exist 4 or 5 years ago. HR Took care of AA, but now there are entire departments separate from HR. Do a little Googling.
So multiple viewpoints aren't taught in Universities? Last I knew, a college student picks his courses, pretty obvious selection alone means diversity. And how is State dictated education diverse? With the State directing what is taught the education is what the State determines what they want taught, anything other than diverse
AA and DE&I have nothing to do with what is taught in Universities' curriculums nor the State wanting to dictate what is taught in Universities Nothing personal, but you are offering personal generalities that have nothing to do with the thread
Indeed, that’s why liberals infest our education system. Also why they love the idea of man made global warming with the USA as the evil-doer, not giving a damn what China does. They love recipes that cook themselves up some nice authoritarianism
Colleges and universities need to have more diverse politically standing teachers. They need to be highly competitive environment where multiple opinions challenge the students. It has to change to what is currently being pushed. The strong survive, the weak get eaten
Maybe these can help you figure it out Coming Home From College https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/03/college-indoctrination-leftism-rampant/ Study: Liberal Universities Indoctrinate Students Before They Even Arrive for the Fall Semester https://amac.us/study-liberal-universities-indoctrinate-students-even-arrive-fall-semester/
