Abortion ban amendment shot down in Kansas doesn't bode well for Repubss

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  1. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    If a fetus is wilfully created and wanted, baring medical reasons why would a woman abort?

    Such instances are irrelevent to the abortian debate.
     
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    All this because you decided fetus=person and that government should stop women from controlling their own bodies. The question is what measures women may feel are necessary to stop you from oppressing them.
     
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    Irrelevant only if you consider abortion strictly a legal debate. If you consider the immorality of killing inconvenient life in order to ,make a young woman's life easier it's a different debate.
     
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    When have I said the government should stop woman from doing anything?
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    Well even then, do you consider it immoral to forfeit the life that's created due to young woman having abortians at an early age like in the case of the 10 year old, that go on to start families?

    That one fetus being aborted contributed to the lives of plenty others in a loving family.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not outrage .. we went over this "Offence" and is not "fake" .. I am truly offended by your desire to force extremist religious beliefs on others through physical violence..

    I also find if offensive .. to human intellect in general .. one who conflates taking a dump in the morning with killing babies .. doesn't understand the difference .. and on this basis wants to go on some holy war to legislate .. take away the rights of others

    Pretty Sure Jesus would find it offensive as well .. such hatred of the rock on which his teachings were based .. blasphemer using the good name of Christ to justify persecution of others. Doubly offensive I say .. but is a free country .. so feel free to offend away :)
     
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    Well, perhaps there are those who think sacrificing you would make the lives of others a lot better.
     
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    I do see body autonomy as a right. No one has lost it.
     
  9. Vernan89188

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    If I am a fetus, it could happen. But I'm not.
    What if your mother had an abortian before she met your father, would you feel the same way about being anti choice?

    Many people alive have mothers that had abortians before they were born...what's your message to them? F em?
     
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    Yes, God forbid you should be offended by child sacrifice.
     
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    It should not be up to the state.
     
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    I never said I was anti-choice. We're all free to make choices, but some of us are concerned about morality. I find it immoral to kill someone just because his life is inconvenient for someone else.
     
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    "Pivoting" Oh .. my my .. to Potential .. your argument from the beginning .. and throughout. Why would you be upset about this .. or is it that you did not realize .. what it was you were arguing .. even though I told you this in my first response to your post.

    Then you repeat this fallacious and demonstrably false trope .. that the zygote is a baby .. because it could potentially result in an adult.

    and then claim to have Won something .. What did you think you have won mate .. other than proving once again that your silly claim remains unsupported .. rolling on the floor laughing and salivating on yourself crying "Im Winning - Im Winning" will not change this fact.

    Do you not have something solid on which you justify forcing these extremist religious beliefs on others .. through physical violence .. is it just mad power lust . .. what gives ?

    Tell you what -- this Religion you ascribe .. go ask the cult leader .. when does the soul arrive .. and get back to me with your answer ..but not without.
     
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    And it's in fact even worse to force woman to carry to term in an attempt to absolve your personal morals.

    Doing so forfeits more quality lives. That will have loving parents.
     
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    I am offended by Child Sacrifice .. what a crazy thing to suggest otherwise ... are you not offended by such religious practices ?

    I realize you are only in the beginning phases of justification of atrocity on the basis of religious belief .. and so even you should be offended by such things as child sacrifice ,,, but where do you think this slippery slope you are professing leads ? Thats how they got there mate.. and you on the same tried and true theocratic path. bet you curse the God of Secularism in your prayers at night aye mate :) !
     
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    When did I say I would force women to do anything? If you don't like being called out for your immorality, that's on you.
     
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    So you don't vote conservative republican. Cool.
    Cause if you do, then you just misrepresented your position.
     
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    That's your uneducated stereotype?
     
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    Not a stereotype since it’s their advertised platform to accomplish it with threat of law enforcement.
     
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    I'm not registered with any political party. I usually vote Libertarian.
     
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    It's not.
     
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    You got all the mantras memorized. Too bad Kansas cut you off at the knees. But keep spews cheap LW slogans and lies.
     
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    You don't want to pass laws making abortion against the law in except, perhaps, specific instances?
     
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    That's right.
     
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    Most abortions would be legal?
     

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