Let's get something straight about 'enumerated' vs 'unenumerated' rights

Whose illiteracy?

...shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.


"Others" as in 'other rights" , and what might those other rights be?

THE ONE'S NOT MENTIONED, WHICH IS WHAT 'UNENUMERATED' MEANS.

Duh.

 

Let's have a look: "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

I read this part as speaking of the enumerated rights: "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights."

And this part to be about the other rights retained by the people (that aren't enumerated): "shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

 

Sorry but its still her body.

 

Plessy vs Ferguson was never overturned

It was judged to be unworkable

PF says that segregation is alright as long as the treatments are separate and EQUAL Brown vs BD Education says that's not really possible (it was tried for over 50 years and never worked ONCE) and since any non-equal treatment denies rights to some we have to treat everyone the same.

Up until now I always thought the SC was uh..SUPREME, that meant it COULDN'T overturn itself even if it wanted to.
But I never thought one major party would reboot the Nazis either.

 

Those rights are the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights. For instance, my right to free speech doesn't disparage your right to your private property. Example: if you own a grocery store and someone wear a KKK outfit in your store, you can run him off because his right to free speech doesn't disparage your property rights. It doesn't mean that whatever right you think you have is a right and you're untouchable.

The "rights retained by the people" are the rights listed in the Constitution.

 

The Supreme Court has overturned Supreme Court decisions since it's creation.

It's happened over 300 times, now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...2018, the Supreme,overruled by the Exxon Corp.

You folks on the Left need to do your own research instead of just listening to what people tell you.

 

The 9th Amendment doesn't say anything about unenumerated rights. It isn't even an inference to unenumerated rights. You're buying into a bullshit interpretation of the text.

 

Show me where "not enumerated", or "unenumerated" appears in the 9th Amendment. Y'all keep referencing words and sentences that don't show up anywhere in the text.

 

No, it's far more rights than that. It's almost a right to do anything that doesn't harm someone else.

We aren't called a free country for nothing.

 

Is feeding birds a right?

 

I stand corrected, nevertheless Plessy v Ferguson was not one of them.

 

Is there some way that feeding birds hurts anyone?

 

take a few sips of coffee, and think about what enumerated means.

number (enumeration) 1. speech, religion, press, peaceable assembly
number 2. well regulated militia
3. quartering soldiers
4. unreasonable search and seizure
5. self incrimination
6. speedy trial
7.trial by jury, double jeopardy
8. cruel & unusual punishment

are those all of your rights? i have a bunch more. privacy, autonomy, interstate travel, the right to read, the right to think, the right to appreciate art and music, etc. but wait a minute, those did not make the list. they are , now take this very slowly, "un enumerated."

the nineth amendment says, very clearly, that the bill of rights does not enumerate every right, and that those rights that did not make the list are rights all the same.

this link begins with madison (from the conhressional record.) he did not think any of the rights needed enumeration.

Ninth amendment -- Unenumerated Rights :: US Constitution Annotated :: Justia

Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Ninth amendment -- Unenumerated Rights :: US Constitution Annotated :: Justia

 

Sure enough I would ask for you to show that abortion is an unenumerated right and not just a privileged granted by the supreme Court in 1973.

 

certainly. but like all rights, it is subject to regulation, zoning and such. your town may prohibit feeding pigeons or keeping chickens, and may prohibit baiting of migratory waterfowl.

 

It's completely banned in California. Does that mean that right is being violated?

A right can't be completely banned. It can't be regulated, either. You just can't cause harm to others.

 

Those rights fall under the already enumerated rights.

Privacy: 14th Amendment
Autonomy: 1st Amendment
Reading, thinking, arts and music: 1st Amendment
Right to travel: Article 4, Section 2, the privileges and immunities clause.

Try again.

 

Ask California. They banned it under the law. That Leftist bastion of freedom and liberty y'all are so proud of.

 

You bet you stand corrected...lol

 

where do you live. of course rights can be regulated. you may need a permit for the most peaceable assenbly. many religions are regulated to some extent (primarily drugs and sacrifices which generally do not harm orhers) . alex jones just learned a lesson about freedom of speech, and i suppose he considers infowars to be "the press."

 

No, a permit isn't required for a peaceable assembly. You might have to get a permit to peaceably assemble on a public street, or the like.

Just like gun ownership can't be infringed, but murder and assault are illegal. The bans on murder and assault aren't regulations on gun ownership.

The verdict in the Alex Jones case violated the 1st Amendment and will either overturned on appeal, or will create one hell of a slippery slope for the press in the future.

 

The second ammendment can be repealed, so gun ownership CAN BE INFRINGED.

 

Two different things...lol. Do you know the difference??

 

Yes, I do understand the difference. You said something that is not true and I corrected you. DIFFERENCE: You are wrong - I am right.

 

Repealing the Constitution and passing a law that violates an amendment are two different things...lol