Eric Trump reveals HE told Donald FBI raided Mar-a-Lago: Ex-President's son claims agents 'ransacked

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Yep

    White House starts moving Obama’s records to Chicago

    ...The Presidential Records Act in 1978 declared all presidential and vice presidential records property of the federal government, with “custody, control and preservation” of the records delegated to the National Archives when a commander-in-chief leaves office.

    That means hundreds of millions of records must be transferred from the White House to the Archives before Obama finishes his term. The physical material will go from Washington into temporary storage at a secure warehouse in the greater Chicago area, before eventually being moved into Obama’s presidential library, due to be erected on the city’s South Side.

    In past administrations, that handover involved secure 18-wheeler trucks – pulled directly to the White House South Portico – to load up boxes upon boxes of carefully filed material.

    Ronald Reagan’s administration established a computer cataloguing system that allowed officials to quickly access any records they needed while the president remained in office.

    Because the Reagan library was situated across the country in Simi Valley, California, military cargo planes were employed, packed full of records and emptied at air bases in Southern California. Trucks escorted by police deposited the records at the storage site.

    Also included in the handoff: the tens of thousands of gifts Obama has received over his eight years in office, which, like the documents and records, officially remain in the “complete ownership, possession and control” of the government...
    https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/01/politics/obama-white-house-records

    And as Brett Bier noted last night Obama had promised to have them all on the internet for everyone to see........................not.
     
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    i support 3rd parties and independents, a luxury i enjoy because my statewide elections will always go to the repub, and my parish elections will always go to a democrat. voting contrary is the way to actually say "this does not seem to be working. "
     
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    The FBI never backed all of the Steele dossier. They just said the corroborated parts of it. And the surveillance predates the dossier.
     
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    As long as he is POTUS. Not when he is an ex-POTUS.
     
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    the agents serving the warrant probably do not have the affidavit. it is usually not delivered to the defendant as it may contain "sources and methods" that might get informants killed.
     
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    From the getgo it has been about both with the affidavit being the KEY as to why the search was conducted in the first place.

    Explain you position that is the obligation of Trump to justify the search and not Garland and Wray and the FBI? How would Trump know in the first place?
     
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    So once again he is supposed to prove his innocence while the government runs roughshod over him again.
     
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    And he had that authority when the documents were shipped to Mar a Lago.
     
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    Did I say it was Trump's obligation to justify the search? Please quote me doing so. And the only obligation the FBI has when it comes to justification is justifying it to the court.
     
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    True, but it is not illegal for former Presidents to maintain possession of classified material.
    It is common for them to do just that.

    Of course, the current POTUS can demand their return.
     
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    Again: it doesn't matter if the documents were declassified or not when it comes to the legality of removing them.
     
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    i am not entirely sure the steele dossier has been debunked, some of it (the russian hookers) might seem unbelievable about normal people but does anyone believe this is a "normal" person.
     
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    Bobb isn't entitled to see the affidavit, no one is.
    Only if a person is charged then the defendant/lawyer can see the affidavit.
     
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    AGAIN, he can make the warrant public anytime he wants. But, like you, he prefers to play games.
     
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    They are just looking for more excuses. Every time new information is released, their story and their demands will change.
     
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    Yeah, the FBI had a schedule to keep investigating Perry and he has a conflict with that...
     
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    We demand to see the birth certificate of the person who TYPED the after david.... we suspect Kenyan roots...
     
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    You just can't stand it can you. It is not for Trump to explain and justify the FBI and DOJ it is for THEM.

    He has said he will not oppose the unsealing so that it is released in an official form and we know it is COMPLETE.

    But then that is not the key piece we need to see it is the affidavit as to WHY the Garland and Wray and the FBI did what they did.
     
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    ALL presidents have their records and documents shipped out of the White House for review and archiving as I have noted already Obama shipped 30 million pages that he promised to post on the internet and he never has. See above with the link. Reagan had his shipped to his ranch. They go through them with the National Archives and most end up in their libraries. YES they belong to the NA but are put on display and open for research at their libraries.
     
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    Debunked as far as the Trump allegations of Russian collusion, the Russian who made it up and gave it to Steele has admitted as such and is about to go on trial. I do believe that got the weather on some days correct.
     
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    They belong to the NA. And the libraries are not the personal property of said presidents. You manage to get something new wrong with every post
     
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    There was no need for Perry to be there.
    Plenty of "Freedom Caucus" cray-crays available.
    They're now more scared of the nuke document possibilities then they are of pissing off their Dear Leader.
     
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    According to Patel Trump declassified the documents.
    https://fightwithkash.com/articles/...o-marked-classified-were-already-declassified
    Now it's fair to say someone is lying, but then it's a proven fact that the FBI has lied in order to get a warrant.
     
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    Not to you or trump lovers. That is only required in court.

    Trump was crying again so Garland is offering to tell everyone what they wanted. It was sealed to protect trump's privacy.
     
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