Trump Calls for a 'New Election' That Could Reinstate Him as President

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  1. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    JFC, you cannot be serious here.

    YOU claimed he declassified them. Doesn't matter how you got there.

    Stop trying to qualify everything when you get called out,
     
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  2. Izzy

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    Seth Abramson was tweeting as Trump was spewing tonight at the Pennsylvania rally.
    Trumps out of his mind, beyond unhinged and a dangerous, mentally sick guy.
    Tragically his little soldiers just clap and cheer and never even try to discern what he's spewing.
    Trump will only get worse and worse.
    Does he do speed beforehand?



    Frightening read , it won't cut/paste as written.

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1566210661658595328.html
     
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  3. balancing act

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    Ouch!
    Guessing that writer didn't care for the speech?
    Lol!
    How can people fall for this crap!
     
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  4. Bush Lawyer

    Bush Lawyer Well-Known Member

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    Here ya go...you win the brown paper bag of boiled lollies for this week. Spot bloody on.
     
  5. Izzy

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    Transcript straight from the blithering idiot's mouth.
    9/3/22 Pa rally
    Donald, you were going to release the security footage of the FBI search, what happened?
    You had documents hidden in your bedroom so Melanias bedroom should have been off limits?
    Funny, this is a first about Baron's bedroom, release the security footage so we can all see the wreckage the FBI left behind.

    Snip:

    "There could be no more vivid example of the very real threats from American freedom. And just a few weeks ago, you saw when we witnessed one of the most shocking abuses of power by any administration in American history, the shameful raid and breaking into my home Mar-a-Lago was a travesty of justice.

    That made a mockery of America's laws, traditions and principles. Before the entire world the entire world was watching and they're shocked. They're shocked. South American countries, numerous of them, their leaders said could you imagine if that was ever done in our country? What the United States would be saying about us. The Biden administration invaded the home of their chief political opponent who is absolutely destroying him and everyone else in the polls. I hate to say it.

    Even including the Republicans, but we love the Republicans, on a phony pretext getting permission from a highly political magistrate who they hand-picked late in the evening, just days before the break-in. And trampled upon my rights and civil liberties as if our country, that we love so much. We're a third world nation. We're like a third world nation.

    They rifled through the First Lady's closet drawers and everything else, and even did a deep and ugly search of the room of my 16-year-old son, leaving everything they touched in far different conditions than it was when they started. Can you believe it?

    The FBI and the Justice Department have become vicious monsters. controlled by radical left scoundrels lawyers and the media who tell them what to do—you people right there—and when to do it.

    They're trying to silence me and more importantly, they are trying to silence you. But we will not be silenced, right. We will never stop speaking the truth. We have no choice because we're not going to have a country love. The evil and malice of this demented persecution of you and me should be'

    cont:
    https://www.newsweek.com/read-every...d-his-first-rally-after-mar-lago-raid-1739683
     
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  6. Bluesguy

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    HE claimed he declassified them and so far nothing has been shown otherwise.

    For instance

    President Trump declassifies documents on the origins of FBI's Russia investigation 'to the maximum extent possible' just hours before he leaves office
    Trump on Tuesday declassified documents related to FBI's Russia investigation

    Probe looked into whether Trump campaign colluded with Russia in 2016
    Investigation began when James Comey headed the FBI under Barack Obama

    After Trump fired Comey in 2017, Robert Mueller was named special counsel
    Mueller probe ultimately found no evidence of Trump-Russia conspiracy

    Trump has called Russia probe a 'witch hunt' aimed at discrediting presidency
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...declassifies-documents-FBIs-Russia-probe.html

    How much of the alleged classified material comes that? We don't know do we.

    So calm down with your JFC's. I would have thought by now you would have learned not to listen to the MSM and their hair on fire proclimations and your "WE GOT HIM NOW"'s.
     
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  7. Izzy

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    Notice the "to the maximum extent possible" part?

    Which means that the documents went through a declassification process with govt intelligence agency(s) who redacted whatever they didn't want released to the public.

    Since Trump is claimed to be the all powerful magical declassifier by just saying the word, why didn't he overrule the declassifying process and furthermore why did he wait until his last day in office to do it?
     
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    When you can prove a false claim let me know since have yet to do so. And people who make false claims do not survive very long around here. I suggest you note who does.
    Claiming someone makes mostly false claims in order to avoid a rebuttal is about as weak as you can get.
     
  10. Bluesguy

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    I have not said he has been exonerated I have said SEVEN YEARS and you nor anyone else has shown a crime he committed.

    A play on words and false anyway. A President can be indicted there us nothing in the Constitution that says otherwise and were he to murder hisbwife he would be indicted. But the actual indictment would have come after the charges were brought and he was removed by impeachment or by losing reelection or his term ending. AS WITH BILL CLINTON.

    Trump claims he declassified and for instance as I noted above thatbincludws the Russian collusion investigation documents. We'll see....

    SEVEN YEARS of yet........

    And they were there in the storageroom with the subpoena and the docs. They could have taken them all right then and there.

    You know how many list of all these alleged crimes going back SEVEN YEARS I have read?
     
  11. Izzy

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    Nope!
    Trump's ;lawyers went though the boxes and took out what they chose to give to the FBI
    The FBI asked (?) were offered (?) to see the storage room where the stash was but weren't permitted to touch the boxes.
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    ROFL your post have all the bluster and bravado of Trump himself. But then when you can't argue on the merits what do you have left?
     
  13. Hey Now

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    That would be an endless task. 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of your posts are just wrong or maybe simply intentionally false. That's just weak and disingenuous if it's intentional.
     
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  14. Hey Now

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    Well my post was and is spot on. A track record of posting B/S claiming they are facts is well known here.
     
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  15. Bluesguy

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    And more "JUST YOU WAIT WE GOT HIM NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!"........:deadhorse:
     
  16. Bluesguy

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    No you have not and no regulation prevented for bring forth criminal charges. Post the regualtion you claim. Where in US Code does it state that?
    AND AGAIN explain how charges were brought against SITTING PRESIDENT Bill Clinton for which he was impeached and then later plea bargained the charges?

    You guys keep saying Presidents are not above the law and then claim President Trump was above the law.
     
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    No - they weren’t told that. They were specifically prohibited from opening the boxes to see what was inside.
     
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    Here ya go!
    Straight from the horse's mouth,

    "Why Muller said he couldn't indict Trump, explained'
    https://www.vox.com/2019/7/24/20708...epartment-indictment-charge-sitting-president



    "Lieu recounted the three elements needed for the crime of obstruction of justice.

    "I believe a reasonable person looking at these facts could conclude that all three elements of the crime of obstruction of justice have been met, and I'd like to ask you the reason, again,

    you did not indict Donald Trump is because of the OLC (the DOJ's Office of Legal Counsel) opinion stating that you cannot indict a sitting president, correct?" Lieu asked.

    "That is correct," Mueller asked.



    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...ump-could-be-indicted-when-he-leaves-n1033901
     
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    Somehow, you've left out the important investigation, which the FBI kept secret, as is their policy, into the connections between the Trump campaign and Russian Intelligence. So, if all these investigations had been made public-- Hunter's laptop, Clinton's emails, the Trump- Russia connections-- then Trump would never have been elected President. If OTOH, the FBI had stuck to its own rules about not talking about any investigative until & unless, it filed an indictment (not to mention their policy to not speak about, or take any action regarding, a political leader, in the 90 days prior to an election), then Trump would never have been elected President.

    I think Trump, & his advocates supporting this lunacy, are the definition of those who want to have their cake, and eat it, too.
     
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    There is a bigly huge difference between a "subpoena " and a search warrant.
    Subpoena equates to "no touchie".

    AND: The FBI wasn't permitted to touch the boxes, just see their location.
     
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    Within the last SEVEN YEARS

    In 2018 Trump settled and paid the students 25 million for fraud pertaining his Trump University,

    In 2019 Trump was also court ordered to pay 2 million in fines for the misuse of his Trump Foundation money along with pleading to 19 counts as part of the plea deal;.
     
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    Oh, that makes sense. *rolling eyes*

    Because you have to *disprove* that he "declassified" documents where there's utterly no evidence that he did "declassify" the documents.

    Christ. Give this nonsense a rest.
     
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    Oh, Christ. This is either the most uninformed or dishonest BS I've seen in awhiler here. I quoted directly from Mueller. I have no idea where you come up with this crap.
     
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    No I don't have to disprove anything, the FBI has to prove they are still classified. But then they proved Clinton was in unauthorized possession of classified materials and we see what happened there........
     
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    I come up with the law and how it is applied and I could care less the bogus excuse Mueller tried to use to excuse the failure of his office after almost TWO YEARS to prove there was a crime. I quoted you directly from his authorization letter. You have not cited this law you claim prevents a President from being charged with a crime nor even the DOJ guideline that CAUTIONS that doing might interfere with the performance of his duties but does not prohibit charges being brought forward so he can be prosecuted.

    AND AGAIN explain how charges were brought against SITTING PRESIDENT Bill Clinton for which he was impeached and then later plea bargained the criminal charges?
     

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