FOX news is going to town with this Illegals in the Bus thing

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  1. cabse5

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    Congress doesn't want our border secure. It's time to fire some congresscritters.
     
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    Where did you come up with that? What vote? When? Got a link? And BTW, these are legal immigrants.

    I see this as a win-win-win:

    -- Abbott, DeSantis, and Ducey get to rid their states of people they view as undesirable.
    -- The immigrants, misused as they are by this political tactic, will get processed and settled in much nicer places than AZ, TX, and FL.
    -- The receiving communities will benefit by a boost in local economies when these new would-be citizens begin working, paying taxes, patronizing local small businesses, etc.

    The communities being bombarded by buses and planes full of frightened and weary men, women, and children are coping quite well, by the way, doing what good, compassionate Americans have always done: rolling up sleeves and getting to work.

    You don't want these legal immigrants in you neighborhood. That's your loss, and your community's. So sad that hate seems to be all you have for these new people.
     
  3. StillBlue

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    I say move out all the illegals from Florida! TODAY!
    What's that?
    Florida's ag industry would collapse without them?
    Yeah sure but we'll... uh...er...um...never mind. Maybe we could find a way to make them legal?
     
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    Immigration has to be reduced to a level that society can absorb, but Congress has to do it, and even under Trump, he could not get it done
     
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    So the defense of this ridiculous stunt is “we’ll their actually in better conditions now” ? YES, because the people of MV and he governor of Mass actually were human beings and helped other human beings because they actually have empathy. But you gloss over what Desanits and Abbott were trying to do, which is not a trivial distinction here. Abbott and Desantis chose that place for 2 reasons, “rich liberals” and it IS an island where they could not just walk away from……What Desantis and Abbot didn't count on was the empathy of the American people. This stunt may resonate a little bit in MAGA world, but this is going to backfire HUGE on them, and already is starting. The press are already “following the money”, and thats going to get real interesting for them as the numbers coming out already are staggering….and YES, MAGA world wont care, they will support any dollar figure, but the rest of the country wont…..

    Im also seeing that at the federal level they are looking into what can be done here. Remember, these governors live in AMERICA, and what they have done may have violated federal laws. In the end, IMHO, this stunt is going to backfire HUGE against these governors. Hell, Desantis only won his state election by less than 2 points…..But Desantis has intentions on running for President and he wont even make it out of the primaries. This may have made a portion of the MAGA crowd cheer, but MAGA is a minority in American politics……so enjoy the laugh while you still find it funny MAGA’s, it probably wont be very funny at election time, as the American people actually see the human beings here, not the “brown people” that the MAGA see ;)
     
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    WTF are you on about here ?
     
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    I’ve been saying the same thing for some time now. Both sides (politicians) use immigration to appeal to their bases. Repubs don’t want to stop illegals from coming into this country anymore than Dems do. Again, referring to politicians.
     
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    this is NOTHING more than political theater

    why is deathsantis spending Florida money in texas?? Texas has way more money than Florida

    does this look familiar??...this is exactly what trump did and still tries to do

    but unlike deathsantis, trump does not have the platform of the governor of a populated state like Florida

    the only genius thing about this news is deathsantis is getting nationwide coverage for being outrageous

    every selfish ignorant redneck thinks this is wonderful, but it is actually adding to the problem

    the increase in immigration is because if the message trumpers and Qaloons put out there

    Biden NEVER said the borders would be open...Biden said he wanted to fix the broken immigration system

    Trump spin this and says that if Biden wins the borders would be open

    trump basically was baiting the immigrants with this information

    deathsantis lied to the immigrants to get them on the plane,,,keep in mind this was the first time most have ever rode on a plane

    no doubt this is international news, people all over central and south America began packing up and heading north after heraing this story

    they want a free plane ride,,

    I lived in Hialeah Florida for many years .during my time there English become a second language ,,the entire Miami suburb is crawling with illegals from Cuba...running a samll busines while I was there once a month I would receive a phony tax number ,,

    illegals think taxes are only for the rich...I had a guy quit after one week because I withheld taxes from his check

    if deathsantis want to export illegals he should rent a boat and ship the illegal cubans back to Cuba

    he could start at the coffee counter at Versailles on SW 8th street...go north to miami springs and then into hialeah

    before being halfway through Hialeah, a cruise ship full of illegal Cubans could be found right in deathsantis back yard

    this entire deal is very sad

    if deathsantis can use the most desperate people on earth as a political tool,,

    can you imagine what he will do to those not desperate ??
     
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    Except illegal aliens (they're illegal until they go through the legitimate immigration process, which the vast majority of them won't) don't pay taxes.
     
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    You see Texas moving a small number of migrants to other states as “attacking” them?

    That’s rich.

    Abbott and DeSantis are exposing the stunning hypocrisy of the “Not in my back yard!” liberals.
     
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    How?
     
  12. Natty Bumpo

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    It's hardly surprising that it is predominantly apolitical NGOs that treat refugees as humans.

    Politicians like DeSantis and Abbot scoring political points by human trafficking is especially antithetical to Christian values.
     
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    Cynical politicians' stunts that use refugees as weapons are disgusting.

    The reality that these rejected folks are accepted and helped where they are sent rather than sent back underscores the contrast in Christian principles.
     
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    You see the migrants as “weapons”?

    How can you liberals have such a total absence of self awareness to not see and face up to your own hypocrisy? I find this absolutely stunning.
     
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    Nope, their sending people for the express purpose of causing trouble.
     
  16. Montegriffo

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    1491?
     
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    Don’t you think that the flow of hundreds of thousands of migrants into Texas is “causing trouble” for Texas?

    So far you and Natty Bumpo have referred to these migrants as “attacking”, “weapons”, and now, “causing trouble”.

    You are making my case for me!! The utter hypocrisy is amazing.
     
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    I'm sure they are but Mexico is NOT sending them for the express purpose of causing trouble like Abbott and DeSantis are doing. So sorry no hypocrisy.
     
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    Mexico is doing nothing to stop the flow. But what Mexico is doing or not doing is not what we’re talking about.

    What Abbott is doing is exposing the abject hypocrisy of the liberal establishment that is directly responsible for the predicament they have put his state in.

    The meltdowns and histrionics of these liberal city and state officials are amusing and sooooo transparently hypocritical. For a liberal, it has to be flat out embarrassing.
     
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    Still no hypocrisy, sorry.
     
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    I agree fire anyone who doesn't want to seriously want to work on this problem. I would also add no "my way or the highway people". We have identified a problem. let us take steps to solve it.
     
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  22. Seth Bullock

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    That’s like looking in the mirror and denying that what you see is you.
     
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    Nope, no its not.
     
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    Follow the money? Again the blatant hypocrisy of this all.

    So now the taxpayer cost of this "stunt" is of concern? Do you know what also costs taxpayer money? The tens of millions of illegal immigrants currently living in America to the tune of hundreds of billions of tax payer money every year. Tell the MSM to follow the money for the hundreds of illegal immigrants who just waltzed over our border yesterday without permission. But they won't and we know they won't and we know exactly why they won't.

    Yup these Governors live in AMERICA, so does the Governor of Massachusetts and the Mayor's of Chicago and DC and all the elected government officials of every one of the 50 States that all get a collective say so in how our AMERICAN border is regulated. Even if their particular State is not a border State. So if they are all allowed a voice in the matter then the outcome of whatever policy we enact regarding the border needs to be shared equally among all States. The border states alone simply cannot be expected to handle the millions of illegal immigrants crossing over every year.

    Empathy only goes so far. Empathy is easy to have during rare occasions like this. Massachusetts isn't overrunning with illegal immigrants and this is likely the first time the residents of Martha's Vineyard have ever even seen an immigrant in real life and it was only 50 of them, they could handle that. Give them 50 per day every single day for the rest of their lives and check back in a few years and see if they are still rushing out with open arms. Just like how the Mayors of DC and Chicago are complaining on national TV saying their systems are being overwhelmed stop sending bus loads of illegals there. Yeah well that's how these border states feel, they are overwhelmed as well, difference is they don't have the ability to go on TV and say please stop and the politicians in DC refuse to secure the border.
     
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    These liberal states and cities are so full off hypocrisy, it’s leaking out their ears, and everyone can see it.
     
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