Almost Unbelievable This Still Goes On

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  1. Nwolfe35

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    They get "silenced" because their work is peer reviewed and found to be lacking. That is what peer reviewed means.
     
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    10s of thousands globally have rejected the official narrative from various fields of medicine. Explain that.
     
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    That number means nothing unless you can compare it to the number who have accepted the "official narrative"

    There are people today who believe that the Earth is flat....does that mean the Earth is flat? Or are they just the outliers when compared to the VAST majority that knows that the Earth is round.
     
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    "Despite the impressive numbers of the leaders, there are only 1.13 doctors for every 1,000 people in the world today." To give you a perspective of how many doctors there are.
    https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-most-doctors-per-capita.html

    The doctors who gave the official narrative the finger.

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-12...dical-professionals-oppose-covid-vaccine.html

    57 Top Scientists and Doctors: Stop All Covid Vaccinations
    https://assets-global.website-files...23 Fifty Seven Top Scientists and Doctors.pdf

    The ex-Pfizer scientist who became an anti-vax hero
    https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/health-coronavirus-vaccines-skeptic/

    An Infectious Disease Doctor Explains Why Some Of His Colleagues Are Quitting In The Face Of Vaccine Mandates
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/corona...the-face-of-vaccine-mandates/?sh=3810f25f32da

    I suppose these people are flat earthers, hey?
     
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    So there are 1.13 doctors per 1,000 people in the world. The world population is currently 7.753 billion people. That leaves us with 8,750,000 doctors world wide and your own link (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-12...dical-professionals-oppose-covid-vaccine.html) says there are 100,000 "doctors and medical professionals" that oppose the vaccine. Now not all of these are doctors, but even if they were all doctors that makes it about 1.1% of all doctors.

    So, for some reason you have decided that this very small number has it right while the VAST majority has it wrong.

    What education/knowledge did you use to come to this conclusion?

    To answer your question about them being flat earthers...Yes, 1.1% of doctors may very well be flat earthers...which is much easier to believe then what your belief is...that 98.9% of doctors are conmen, liars and only in it for the money.
     
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    Yes, because these doctors follow their Hippocratic oath, they didn't sway by incentives to push these narratives/jabs. These are the ones who have moral and ethical fibres in their bodies. These are the ones who knew better, who didn't care about what others thought of them, they stood up and called out those pushing the false narratives. They didn't want to be a part of mass euthanasia.
     
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    You keep talking about how this minority of doctors are "right" while the vast majority are wrong.
    Yet you still have not explained how you came to that conclusion. You have no education or experience to make a serious analysis of their position.

    Until you show us that you can make a rational conclusion based on the evidence and not on your biased world view we can safely disregard your conclusion.
     
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    ~ Look at the pictures in Figure 1. (C) tracks immunity from having had the illness — yes, it fades a bit, down to about 50% against all variants ( probably including future variants ). Now look at (D). That’s what happened if they got a vaccine after having had Covid.

    Next, look at (A) — those kids had never had Covid but just the shot. Notice that all lines of immunity go below the ZERO line. The ZERO line is the immunity of an unvaccinated person, so this means that the vaccine immunity not only fades, but after about a half year you are MORE likely to get Covid than an unvaccinated person.
    Children are not "more prone to COVID" before or after infection.
    ~ Is that what happened to you .. ? :boo:
     
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    When you have a majority that has been 'incentivised', anyone with one working brain cell should be able to work out that there is something not right about the whole situation with the vacc...er :puke:inces. If it was all above board, the safety, the efficacy and the actual need for them, why the incentives? Those, as I stated before, the minority, had it in them to dismiss all the hype and bullshit. So they are the ones I and others listen to.

    Yes, I do. It's called self-preservation. By means of critical thinking and common sense. Why take an experimental jab for something that is far less serious than the cold or flu? Did you ever question anything regarding the safety, efficacy, and need for the jabs when there is a 98% survival rate? You'd have to be brain dead to follow the sheep herder, to inject yourself with questionable and exotic ingredients, not knowing the cause and effect it may have on your body. When information and data are hidden from the public, mis and disinformation are used to manipulate the mass's perceptions, into taking something that is not necessary at all. Fearmongering scare campaigns, mandates, lockdowns etc, all for the illusion of something that is piss-weak compared to the cold or flu.
    Then you have inflated figures for hospitalisations, cases, and deaths. Along with death certificates falsely registered as "death by covid", when in fact these victims were of a wide variety of fatalities that were farm from covid. All to do with incentives for hospitals and individuals to add to the hype and hysteria which so many fell for.
    What are my qualifications, experience, education and analysis of it all? Doing my own research, looking at all the narratives, finding out what's in these jabs, what have they done, who, when, where, what & why were all my questions. I ignored Simon on what he said, I didn't play along with the mind games, I used critical thinking and common sense, traits that many people lack these days. What are your qualifications?

    Tolerating ignorance is not a strong suit of mine.

    You can make all the rational conclusions all you like, the fact remains that I know people who have taken their shots and have had adverse effects, and have had their immune systems destroyed because of them. We can safely say we'll just disregard you.
     
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    I've stated before that I have no qualifications in medicine or immunology which is why I rely on the overwhelming consensus of the people that do have the qualifications. Your position is no different than hearing a strange noise in your car engine, consulting 10 different auto mechanics, and then going with the one that says your alternator fluid is low because the other 9 are obviously "incentivized" to try and get you to replace your fuel pump.

    "The fact remains that I know people who have taken their shots and have had adverse effects"
    AKA "Anecdotal evidence"

    Furthermore were these people part of a double blind study? Were the "adverse effects" conclusively linked to the vaccine? Care to name any of these people that have had their "immune system destroyed" by the vaccine...or at least a link to a study that corroborates the issue?

    Of course not....you have your worldview and any little bit of "evidence" that supports that worldview is above reproach and any amount of voluminous evidence to the contrary can just be disregarded.

    One of the differences between you and I is that I "tolerate" ignorance. Ignoring it allows it to spread and that is what you are doing, spreading ignorance.
     
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    I also stated I'm no medical professional, someone who doesn't take lightly, putting my life in the hands of unknowns, wanting to put rubbish in my body. I have an understanding of how my body works, and the effects of some substances via my own research and that of others. You may want to check your mechanic, sounds like he's taken you for a ride, the same with your GP.
    I've given you plenty of links to information, did you view any of it? No, of course not. That's ignorance.

    https://rumble.com/voc62t-banned-videos-of-vaccine-adverse-reactions-by-darrin-mcbreen.html

    If you'd bothered to read/watch anything I've posted... you might have a clue.

    Here is another link that contains many articles on "adverse effects". You, not reading/watching them is ignorant.

    https://www.naturalnews.com/search.asp?query=covid+vaccine+adverse+effects+and+deaths

    Ignorance
    Lack of knowledge and information
    Ignorance is a lack of knowledge and information. The word "ignorant" is an adjective that describes a person in the state of being unaware, or even cognitive dissonance and other cognitive relation, and can describe individuals who are unaware of important information or facts. Ignorance can appear in three different types: factual ignorance, object ignorance, and technical ignorance. Wikipedia


    Have you heard of mass formation psychosis? The masses fell into it. As did you. https://www.zerohedge.com/political...s-formation-psychosis-tool-population-control.

    I ignore the pseudo-science you and many trusts. People who ask for info, then disregard it. This ignorance is what I don't tolerate well. Are you in this category? I think so. Why? Stating there is no evidence, yet I provide it for you.

    The ultimate test will be that of who is left standing. Covid vaxxed vs Unvaxxed. You know what horse I'm putting my money on and I know yours.
     
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    Critical thinking, common sense, research, questions, self-preservation, hesitation, smelling the bullshit, not jumping when Simon said to. And what gave you the warm fuzzy feeling to get on board the covid nonsense narrative train?
     
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    Every single one of your links is just a link to more conspiracy theory nutjobs.

    Darrin McBreen is an infowars "journalist". Not for nothing, infowars just filed bankruptcy because they lost a multimillion dollar judgement for posting misinformation.

    Naturalnews.com...another conspiracy nut website. This particular nut is one Mike Adams.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-natural-news-became-a-conspiracy-hub-rivaling-infowars

    You say you distrust doctors who are pro vaccine because they are incentivized to push the vaccine "hoax"? Well Adams pushed Amazon Herb Company products when it turns out he had a financial interest in the company.

    These are the worst of the snake oil salesmen...and yet here you are touting them as "information" that proves the COVID vaccines are no good.
     
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    The fact that over 90% of medical professionals said so.
    When you don't have the expertise yourself you need to rely on the consensus of the people who ARE experts.

    Here is the main difference between you and I. You see one nutjob conspiracy theorist as reliable information. I don't depend on "one person", I trust the consensus of the experts.

    You would go with the one guy telling you that you needed alternator fluid, I go with the overwhelming consensus of the experts who say I need to replace my fuel pump.
     
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    You don't ignore the pseudo-science....you embrace it.
     
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    You just don't know how to connect anything at all, can you? Didn't I state, to look up Klaus Schwab and his "Great Reset" speech? Did you do that? No. Here is another nutter, that you and plenty of others put your life in their hands. Bill Gates. Is he a fcking scientist or some form of a medical professional? No, yet he is heavily invested in making them. Why? Listen to him. https://rumble.com/v1bvde5-bill-gat...-the-population-using-vaccines-and-abort.html
     
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    Yes, I remember a whole bunch of people from another time in history who also relied relied on the "overwhelming consensus" of the people that also had the "qualifications" from their government and health officials and their so called "smart and informed people".

    They were also were onboard with all their government propaganda from their "EXPERTS" too and tacitly agreed and never thought to question their "SO CALLED" leaders and helped put over 6-million civilians into ghettos first, and then finally to forced labor and extermination death camps.

    Only a FOOL would be stupid enough to trust any government leaders let alone all their handpicked "experts" and their corrupt medical establishments, like Johnson & Johnson and the Rockefeller medical monopolies. Only in government would clowns like Bill Gates, and Dr. Fraudi and his sidekick Dr. Scarf get top billing for this FAKE pandemic FREAK show.
     
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    You've got no clue about conspiracy theories work do you? A conspiracy theory is such when there is no evidence. In this case, there is plenty. It then becomes a conspiracy, which you don't want to accept. Calling it "one nutjob". There are many professionals who
    called out their peers. Only to be silenced, because they posed a threat to the narrative.

    Where do you expect to find "reliable sources" and credible people? Ones that haven't been corrupted and paid off.

    You can trust anyone you want, that's your prerogative. I know what I know and you think you know what you know. It will all come down to the numbers, won't it? There are only so many that are unvaccinated, yet there are still many dropping dead from the jabs which they claim are from covid complications. Go figure that one out.

    I trust my gut instincts and intuition, they never let me down.
     
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    And there we go....Godwin's Law.
    Let any online political debate go on long enough and the probability that someone will invoke the Nazi's and/or Hitler approaches 1

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwi...ing Nazis or Adolf Hitler becomes more likely.
     
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    When science turns into something that harms/kills people, it's pseudo-science. I do not embrace it. It is you, sunshine that embraces that quackery.
     
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    Not really, a conspiracy theory usually has PLENTY of "evidence". It's just that none of it is good.

    Just like you and your anti vax conspiracy. You have PLENTY of "evidence", the problem is that none of it is good evidence.

    You trust your gut instincts and intuition.

    Yeah, those are always better than trusting research and expertise.

    (In case you have a hard time determining it, that was sarcasm)
     
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    So, who and what are you expecting disclosure from?
     
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    You like dodging questions hey? Would you care to answer it?
     

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