Americans have lost $4,200 in income under Biden, wiping out Trump gains: Heritage

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  1. mdrobster

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    Well no matter how many times you have been provided links to govt numbers that red states receive more federal money than blue states; and in another post I pointed out that salt cap affects first time home buyers in red states too; my money is you couldn't explain why those red states are do poor.
     
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    And it took them almost SIX YEARS to do it. Trump got back to the number from the depths of pandemic is a few months. And the Obama/Biden recovery was the worst since WW II.
    Great job of generating a vapid "huh-uh", you've got all the slogans, distortions and partisan poppycock down to a science.
     
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    6??.. they did it in 2! lol
    And that was after GWB, an other GOP mastermind of the economy, caused the mortgage crisis = the biggest economical crash world wide since the 1930's which was worse than WWII.

    He left office with a massive negative GPD in the last year, while the unemployment rate was higher than when he started. While you ignore that all his numbers before the pandemic were mediocre at best. Something he accomplished by lending an utterly insane amount. And he passed that bill to Biden.

    Indeed. all the slogans, and you got no reply.
     
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    Fine, haven't go an truthful one yet.

    by the way here's the UE rate during the Obama/Biden regime:

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    It ends at 2017, and so leaves out 2018, 2019 and 2020.
    Good job.


    https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-obama-trump-numbers-tiktok-idUSKBN28D34P

    unemployment overall reached a high of 10% in Oct. 2009
    he left office in Jan. 2017 it was 4.7%, its lowest rate during his presidency.
    with the lowest rate being 3.5% in Sept. 2019

    So Obama did about 5% in 8 years: 0.6% a year.
    Trump did 1.2% in 2 years: 0.6% a year.

    But Trump had to borrow an insane amount of money to achieve that, increasing the entire debt by 17%... before the Pandemic hit. It was like 36% increase when he left.
     
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    You were the one claiming how great Obama/Biden did (which this disproves)- why should I include Trump's numbers?

    But since you asked nicely - for a change:


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    as posted above, but you missed my edit / it's supported by your picture:
    unemployment overall reached a high of 10% in Oct. 2009
    he left office in Jan. 2017 it was 4.7%, its lowest rate during his presidency.
    with the lowest rate being 3.5% in Sept. 2019

    So Obama did about 5% in 8 years = 0.6% a year.
    Trump did 1.2% in 2 years = 0.6% a year.

    But Trump had to borrow an insane amount of money to achieve that, increasing the entire debt by 17%... before the pandemic hit. So it's just pathetic achievement.

    And the debt increased something like 36% at the end of his "reign",
    making Biden pay for it, just like GWB left office in a total mess.
     
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    Well, duh! Of course the debt increased we were spending like mad to deal with pandemic.
     
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    AFTER EIGHT YEARS. Trump went from 13% to 6.4% in eight months with a hostile Houses[/quote]
     
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    Problem is the $80/Week for the average parasitic Liberal isn't even money they earned, but rather part of the left wing Gimmees that were paid for by middle class tax payers courtesy of President Joe Vegetable.
     
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    It's all about feelings.

    They feel triggered by Trump, so any cost is worth getting him out to preserve their fragile feelings.

    This is what happens when you let the Beta males run things.

    Strong men make comfortable societies. Comfortable societies breed weak men (we are here), weak men create volatile societies. Volatile societies create strong men
    ...

    Rinse repeat.
     
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    Yes, and of course, had Dear Leader Humpty won in 2020, the USA would have defied World trends and be the only Country now NOT to experience inflation and higher interest rates. It might come as a complete surprise to some here, but there is an entire World out here beyond the coast lines of the USA.
     
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    So it's fine to force others to forgo that amount in order to assuage your moral and emotional outrage? This is why I believe progressives to be the new Moral Majority. Full of smug busybodies.
     
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    It must be exhausting to be a Biden voter and constantly be trying to find excuses for this sort of failure of an administration.

    Will they ever wake up to that reality?
     
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    They know the reality but are hanging on to pipe dreams that Democrat politicians will deliver their dreams.....it ain't gonna happen.
     
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    You're dishonest.
    Trump was spending money like mad on Wallstreet before the pandemic. I told you before that it was part of his plan give money to Wallstreet for the sake to get them to invest a lot more.

    It didn't happen. The GDP remained mediocre. Wallstreet just gave the money to the owners and upper management, leaving no money in the companies for a rainy day. And that day came quick. So Trump had to lend even more to keep them afloat.

    All in all 36%.
     
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    [/QUOTE]
    Right. You're cherry picking only the happy numbers from the pandemic but whine it's not fair when we eyeball the bad numbers.... and you think I'm not noticing. Seriously... lol


    Disregarding the pandemic it was just .6% a year.
    And he did that by lending money on a massive scale.
    He just sucks.
     
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    please try and catch up. TDS doesn't help you. The thread is based upon facts and how the avg folk has fared under full Democrat control. It's not good

    Care to address the topic?
     
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    feel free to explain that to the folks who are now struggling under full Democrat control. let us know how it goes
     
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    Well unicorns, and mythical creatures do exist..duhh!
     
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    it all goes to show me neither R or D care about our debt, think it's time for a change vote ind.
     
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    Trump's weird worshipers need to reference the indisputable data:

    Global inflation and the economic crisis in general is indisputable - as is the empirical certitude that, under the President's predecessor,

    The national debt was raised to $27.75 trillion, up 39% from $19.95 trillion when Trump was sworn in.

    The U.S. trade deficit in goods and services in 2020 was the highest since 2008 and increased 40.5% from 2016.

    The number of people lacking health insurance rose by 3 million during Trump's presidency.

    During the reign of Trumpery, the economy lost 2.9 million jobs, and the unemployment rate increased by 1.6 percentage points to 6.3%.

    Since Biden took office, it has been lowered to the current 3.7%.
     
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    The topic is also what the alternative was. And Trump was it.
    But his figures just sucked. The voters made a good call in putting Biden in charge.
    It's the best the US got as a leader, currently.
    It's not much, but it's all she got.
     
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