Yeah sure: Ukraine was still a subservient vassal state to Russia at that point. See Holodomor. There are no factors excusing a land grab or violation of the given word of the nationstate. Because when you try to forcibly take land back after acknowledging independence you violate basic principles of international law, as well as the specific agreements involved.
Only you said they are subservient to Russia. So, Russian people living on Russian land within Ukraine because a line on a map has moved and the Ukie military has been shelled for 8 years prior to Russia's advancements obviously mean fck all to you. The only way to stop the atrocities committed by the Ukie military is to take that land back with the people on it. Why the fck do you think the people have voted in these referendums, so the shelling would stop and return to Russia, not join, return? As the referenda in the Donbass republics, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions on accession to Russia enter their final day, the turnout in the Lugansk People's Republic, the Donetsk People's Republic, Zaporozhye and the Kherson region stands at 86.89%, 83.61%, 66.43% and 63.58% correspondingly. https://sputniknews.com/20220927/li...ay-1101255443.html?ysclid=l8m1gu86or752389702 It's all in the numbers. The people have told the story.
Of course not, you of all people can stay ignorant and fill your head full of MSM propaganda bullshit.
They WERE subservient to Russia, PRIOR to the 90's, the break up of the soviet union https, and the Budapest memorandum signed by, amongst many other parties, Yeltsin the then President of the Russian Federation. Since the Wagner group is a militia from Russia sent to stir up this conflict? It really does mean **** all to me. They have voted in these referenda because they were forced to at ****ing gun point by Russian soldiers ffs.
Yep, sure they were. Who or what gave you that notion, once again, MSM? https://rumble.com/v1lrdix-ukraine-referendum-to-join-russia-ends-in-donetsk.html Spot the soldiers pointing guns at people's heads. I dare you. Why would people that have been shot and shelled by Ukie military for the past 8 years, need a gun to their head to vote to get the fck out of a sh!t situation? None, the motivation for voting is to no longer be a target and return to Russia. https://rumble.com/v1lrdix-ukraine-referendum-to-join-russia-ends-in-donetsk.html https://ria.ru/20220923/referendum-1819067846.html?ysclid=l8gbkzgvbp645384445 A stark contrast to the bullshit MSM purvey.
But, of course, it wouldn't mean a thing to Westerners who consider Putin a liar. You need some practice at Russian propaganda. Other propagandists on this forum do a far better job than you do.
Do you mean 'practice at Anti-Russia propaganda?' There's tons of it about. I'm not totally sure why the democrats have long regarded destroying Russia as their top priority.
He is a Russian propagandist. Not a very good one but one just the same. These guys have nearly destroyed the world news forum. A majority of posts there deal with Russian propaganda. I'd like to see them banned just to clean up the garbage on that forum.
So, what does that tell you? That I'm not one. Aren't they well versed in their art, as you state I am not? Really good effort at making yourself look the part.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/09/24/ukraine-putin-referendums/ https://metro.co.uk/2022/09/26/ukra...putins-sham-referendums-at-gunpoint-17448794/ https://www.e-ir.info/2014/03/18/re...-the-crisis-in-ukraine-beyond-the-propaganda/ https://www.reuters.com/world/ukrai...-amid-russian-mobilisation-exodus-2022-09-26/ https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/28/fak...ve-the-way-for-annexation-and-escalation.html https://www.economist.com/europe/20...occupied-parts-of-ukraine-vote-to-join-russia https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...orce-residents-cast-vote-sham-referendum.html https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63013356 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63032705 https://www.the-sun.com/news/6300957/defiant-ukrainian-refuse-vote-held-at-gunpoint-by-russians/ https://www.npr.org/2022/09/28/1125543244/ukraine-sham-referendums-russia-annexation https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/27/europe/ukraine-russia-referendum-explainer-intl
Funny, how all of them are MSM, and you included the most infamous of them all, CNN. Now, if you had watched the video (the YT video, Redacted), you'll see that they expose the bullshit purveyed by MSM. As the images shared by the lot of them are of different events of a different time that has nothing to do with the current issues at hand. All to vilify Russia and present to you, all the false narratives to give you your false perspective. The use of media and the false narratives they purvey and some hidden history. https://stopworldcontrol.com/media/ https://www.sott.net/article/393832...nemy-of-the-people?ysclid=l80rq2brdi487628543 https://www.mediavsreality.com/mediavsreality2/2019/9/2/the-brutal-truth-about-the-mainstream-media https://strategic-culture.org/news/...uscates-war-crimes/?ysclid=l80rm8cnq526933105 https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fall-mainstream-media-and-biggest-lies-they-told-2021 https://www.foxnews.com/media/mainstream-media-top-10-2021 https://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article55311.html https://themillenniumreport.com/201...-mainstream-media-with-operation-mockingbird/ http://american_almanac.tripod.com/warfare.htm https://citizentruth.org/operation-mockingbird-cia-media-manipulation/ https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart
The cruel irony is that the same Westerners who consider Putin a liar also consider Biden to be a truth teller and great leader. I suspect you fall into that category.
Who is "going mad?" What does "going mad" mean? Why is he's pals with Cuba and Venezuela if he wants to "completely remove the stigma of communism?" The West is depraved? China and Russia are police states. Your little buddy has been attacking his neighbors with the pretext there are Russians in the territories attacked who want to be part of Russia, sometimes asserting the Russians are being abused. Putin is now faced with a solid NATO wall from the Arctic to the Black Sea. He can't win a conventional war with NATO—their technology is superior. He's been trying to bully the West with WMD threats. It's not working.