Aborting Jesus Christ!? One can not support abortion, and be a true believer of Christ. Because abortion goes across the board. Meaning what? The Democrat Politicians and the democrats on the supreme court, would have to be fine, with any abortion threw out history. So, they would be perfectly fine, if Mary had Aborted Jesus Christ. Talk about a slap in the face to God!!!
before you tell me why that is, I'll give you something that will contradict that. We are all God's Children. Singular, not plural. 1 God. Democrat Politicians aren't gods, even though they'd like to think they're, or would like for people to worship false gods. God gave us free will, and with that mankind kills others. Abortion is murder. Abortion plays God, and determines who lives, and who dies, and no human should have that power!!! Especially with a child, that never even had a chance!!!!!!!!!
I need to start coming up with better wording in threads. The Democrats don't like being completely destroyed from the get go. Especially, in threads that completely go against the Socialist Agenda of the Communist Democrat Liberal Party in America. So for the sake of argument, let's forget what I just wrote. above. Why what do you mean? that God is the most prolific abortionist of all? I have no idea what you're talking about? Please explain more? for I am fascinated to hear your take on the subject???
Whatever Bible you believe in is a lie. Most believers I know have had or paid for abortions. That is not even close to how our laws or courts work. That fable is about a woman being a virgin and birthing a child. That's not physically possible unless she goes to a sperm bank. I don't recall hearing about any of those in the ridiculous stories in the bibles. God is not real so nobody is slapping imaginary Sky Daddies. Until you are prepared for someone to tell you what you can and can't do with your body, you have no say in what others do with theirs.
Not a “Democrat” I am an Aussie so your preconceived and erroneous appellations do not apply By your logic we should eschew all medical intervention
Why not ? - you cry "Abortion is Murder" -- yet on a regular basis you condone Murder -- justified on the basis of lies .. but, I am not here to discuss US foreign Policy Mr. Chicago .. but your claim about Jesus .. and your claim to be a "True Believer" --- yet not having the faintest idea of what the teachings of Jesus that you claim to believe in are.. And somewhere at the end of the Sermon on the Mount -- HeyZues tells us .. that it is not the Hearers of the word get through the gates .. but the doers .. "Faith Alone" Fundamentalists need not apply .. but thats neither here nor there .. What we want to know is what our Lord thought about forcing religious beliefs on others through physical violence .. (Law) and what else .. What HeyZeus thing about "Murder" to begin wit .. and to answer this question .. we need to know when the soul arrives .. cause ain't no murder in the mind of Jesus until that happens now is it... So tell us Mr. Chicago --- When does the soul come to inhabit the fleshy abode awaiting it .. ? Can't wait to hear what Jesus told you when sat down for tea..
I must admit that I have been conflicted on this question...... one of the issues that confused me was that our Creator in Eden seems to have ALLOWED Adam and Eve to abort themselves....... sort of........ and the twelve tribes of Israel in the time of Moses were again ALLOWED to choose death........ as opposed to life??????????????
1. Since you think that God isn't real, does it really matter what Bible I believe in? lol. They're all the same to you! right? lol. 2. You don't know real believers then. A Christian isn't a Christian without Conviction. And obviously people whom have abortions, have either none or very little of that. 3. So how do they work then? please enlighten me? Are you telling me, that Democrat politicians would have made a special exception for Mary, by not wanting her to have an Abortion? Most Democrat Politicians in general vote one way, and that way is for themselves. The supreme court, most people already know, isn't suppose to be merely partisan, however, once again, anyone that knows anything about politics, knows that when a President appoints a supreme court justice, they are partisan in some way shape or form. duh! lol. 4. If you wish to burn in hell that is your own prerogative. I'm sorry that you must demean the Bible and Jesus Christ, just for your own satisfaction of whatever that may be. 5. On this one, I'm going to think like a liberal. But what if I self-identify as an alien? if aliens are real of course. lol. But as an alien, I "feel" with my feelings and all, that I can take over somebodies body right. Are you keeping up with liberal logic? Then that body becomes my body. lmao. Me think, that I possibly shouldn't say this, because the liberal hypocrisy of the far left in this country and thee stupidity of the far left is unimaginable.
lmao. pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffttttttttttttttttt. lol. Well, if Jesus was Aborted he couldn't of died on the cross for peoples sins. Just to let you know, that is very important for people whom do believe in God. lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROTF !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have some respect for you, and that is hard to get from me, towards anyways. However, it is hard for me to trust anyone, that thinks that any form of Abortion is ok. Murder is murder, and never justified. not in the case of rape, or anything!!!
Boring! I missed you! Sorry, that's bower. My bad. Well, since you're an Aussie, then you possibly couldn't have the political mind, and morality, and ideals, of an American Democrat. Right? Me tinks it is funny, when other people from other countries, try and tell Americans how to run our country. Especially, in today's World! After covid, and economies. Here's an idea, since most countries around the World, are still recovering from covid, and the shock from that, why not try and fix your own countries first? maybe? lol. I mean, why would any rational or logical American, unless democrat, want to pander to people from other countries? lol. cough cough, most democrat politicians pander in general to other countries, because they're traitors, and gutless ball less cowards.
I'm sorry that I have "offended" thee's "feelings", owe powerful, and "gifted one". You know, one of the greatest things that I find about God is? His humbleness. Some people who think that they are so "gifted" are simply just mentally disturbed, or just democrats. lol. or gay. But is there really a difference? For being a democrat, is a mental health disorder in the first place. Secondly, if you're going to reply to anyone, please make sure, that you don't insert quotes from like 4 different people. Especially, if you're only going to aim it all at one person. It doesn't make any logical sense. Since you didn't specify this owe gifted one, I figured, I would. Mr. Chicago. I mean, I from Illinois and all, but I'm a Conservative on the right, and most people know in politics know, that Chicago is known to be very corrupt, and very liberal for over 100 years. Most people in Illinois, that don't live near chicago, say that it should be its own state, because if chicago were taken out of Illinois, it would lean more of a Republican of a state. But, i'm sure you already know all of this, correct?
What a steaming pile of avoidance mate .. Who is offended sans the Gods of Republicanism with your hatred for Essential Liberty and God for your usurping the position of the Logos --- putting words in Gods mouth. You were asked a simple Question Mr. Chicago .... When does the soul arrive ?
As an Aussie you would see me as leaning left since our centre is left of your centre but I am not immersed in your political culture ergo your erroneous appellations, which do not apply to even hard core “leftist” democrats certainly do not apply to me. They are strawmen logical fallacies And abortion is an INTERNATIONALissue
Mary probably would have taken that option. I doubt she expected Joseph to buy that whole immaculate conception story.
I get your point. But throughout history, everyone has choice. Abortion was practiced 1500 years before Mary's conception. So she had choice, and the knowledge/means to abort were available. Jesus had choice to do his Fathers will or not. Jesus Disciples as well had choice to follow or not. One of them of course chose to betray him for money. Jesus Gospel is to all a matter of personal choice to accept or reject. Which brings us to today. The concept of choice in the matter of abortion is a valid argument. A law against murder is widely accepted. But on abortion, the nation is roughly divided. Which is not a good place to be. Imo, a compromise is in order.
Sure, but if he was aborted, then he could have died in the womb for people's sins. Can't you just tell me why it would be a slap in the face of God, instead of me having to guess what your view is? Would Jesus dying in the womb not be as effective as dying on a cross? I know it is, but I don't see why it has to be. If he died in the womb, then that would have been the "very important" thing instead.
Why should we care if you consider it offensive to a God who probably does not exist? Do you get upset over insults to Set or Ganesh?
Your comments were not directed to me but I am going to respond. 1. All Bibles are the same in that no empirical evidence can be presented to prove the Bible was the inspired word or the direct word of God. The Bible is simply a collection of stories. Unless you can demonstrate there is a supernatural being behind the Bible with empirical evidence and that this being inspired or wrote the Bible it doesn't matter what any version of the Bible says. 2. Your comment about a true Christian is a logical fallacy called the No True Scotsman fallacy. Who are you to say what a true Christian is? I have to sadly laugh at all of the people who claim to know what a true Chistian is with total certainty -- but cannot provide any empirical evidence to support their supernatural claims. Please, put the horse before the car. Prove your God claims and then get to the nuances of what your God requires. 3. What is your empirical evidence that there is a hell? 4. As a conservative, I can tell you that you comment about liberals etc. and other political slurs are simply a strawman fallacy.
Stop with the multiple strawman and ad hominem fallacies, and try to present a well reasoned argument for whatever point you are making. In other words, don't derail your own thread. Maybe present a well reason argument on why you think abortion is morally wrong, and under what conditions, e.g., rape incest, after conception, after a fetal heartybeat, or whatever. Just sayin.
What's abortion? Do you consider conception to be the fertilized egg or the successful implantation in the uterus?
Pretty hard to respond to your post when you conflate quotes from 2 people and reduce these quotes (in my case) to one word. But I will try to address your question and then perhaps you can tell me what your point is. I consider conception by definition to be the fertilized egg, i.e., zygote.