Needles, Syringes, Feces, Bodies on our Streets

Obviously the majority of voters in that area want high levels of homeless people, poop, needles, and syringes on the streets. The down side to democracy is, it doesn't take IQ into account. So get enough dumb people to be the majority, and the rest suffer.

 

Or in the Reality Universe your post is just full of misinformation

Based on Newsom winning that's likely true

 

It used to smell like exotic foods. Now it smells like exotic bleep.
My car has pool lights that go on when you beep it. Thoughtful engineering, I would say.

 

This is the 'new reality' that characterizes 'Democratville'. Ever been in a country with a two-class society and next-to-no middle class? THAT is what California and other Democrat-infested economic and societal quagmires are turning into....

 

So what is the “Republican” plan to address this

 

Who wants to move to a state with high unemployment?

 

Easy you use the intact bibles to squash the bugs and individual pages to make paper fans

See? Every problem has a solution

 

" I know I left my heart here — but who's poop is that ..! ? "

~ Thanks for the comedy ... '

 

I'm just an ordinary, disaffected Conservative now (who quit the Republican Party five years ago), but I think that many Libertarians and other like-minded Conservatives would tell you that no additional "plan" is necessary to address the issue of people illegally 'camping' on public property, starting dangerous campfires (especially in drought-afflicted areas), crapping and pissing on the streets, sidewalks, in streams and creeks, etc. We have LAWS that address these kinds of activities -- and all we need to do is ENFORCE THEM!

Simple: If people do any of those things, you put them in jail. If there are too many of them, you build more jails -- very basic and sturdy, but no frills. Is there something impossible to understand about that...? Yes... but ONLY to a 'bleeding-heart', 'sob-sister' liberal.

Afterthought: there is absolutely nothing illegal or wrong about being "homeless"... we all the have freedom, guaranteed by everything in our Constitution to make our own choices in life, and where you choose to live is one of the big ones! But, you can't choose to be "homeless" and then decide to go squat on public property or break laws relating to legal behavior, required standards of hygiene on public property, and so on....

 

In several states, including California, the voting system is utterly rigged. Therefore, the results do NOT necessarily reflect the wishes of the electorate. The Dems, including POTUS, are chuckling at how good they are getting at stealing elections, and at how nobody seems to understand that.

 

The trouble is - that just shifts the problem. You basically end up with people in jail who would otherwise be on the streets. What is needed is some very affordable housing - does not have to be anything beyond a bed a toilet and a lock

 

Without me trying to be snotty, Bower, your description of living quarters that doesn't go beyond being "a bed a toilet and a lock" fits the description of a jail cell pretty exactly. Look, I don't want anybody to go to jail, to be 'out on the streets', or anything like that!

Truth? Housing costs, and rents, vary tremendously according to what part of the country you're in. And, without getting all 'preachy' about it, I will simply say again what I've said on a lot of other occasions when this topic comes up here in the Forum -- "If you can't afford to live where you are, then for your own good, GO LIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE! "

When a builder starts a housing project, he must make a profit -- and he must do that and pay his own bills, or else he'll go bankrupt and possibly end up homeless himself!

Look... here in Colorado we have large numbers of homeless people camped all over the place. And believe me, the climate, especially this time of the year is not conducive to living outside in a tent! Tonight the low temperature here in the Denver area will be 20-degrees Fahrenheit, and yet, here they are. And I ask myself again and again, "Are they here just because they want to smoke dope (recreational MJ is fully legal in Colorado)?" But surely THAT can't be the reason, because dope is legal in many states now! Do they WANT to freeze to death in the dark, or get murdered by someone trying to steal their few, pitiful possessions (yeah, that happens, too).

Wouldn't it be a LOT better to go to southern California, southern Arizona, southern Texas, southern Florida, or many other places in the southern U. S., especially from about October through April?! I simply do not (NOT) understand some people....

 

One difference - there would be social workers instead of guards. Where affordable housing has been built people have managed to get jobs and move on

How? If they cannot afford housing then they cannot afford to move. The “shanty towns” of the thirties proved that

which is why this has to be a government or funded community project

you know one of the biggest issues? Cleanliness. You cannot apply for a job if you turn up stinking in dirty clothes.
We have a group called “Orange Sky” that have specially kitted out vans for the homeless to have a shower and do some laundry
https://www.sunshinecoastnews.com.au/2022/10/26/homeless-support-service-gets-major-green-upgrade/

Again - how do they get there? Hitch hike? They stink no one will offer a ride. “Ride the rails” like they did in the thirties? Cant these days. Please, I KNOW you are one of our more intelligent members but please think about the issues underpinning the problem

 

Thank you, Bower, but the truth is that I'm probably just more practical than I am 'intelligent'. And it was in a spirit of seeing the 'homeless world' for what it really is that made me suggest, from a practical standpoint, that the government build compounds out on federally-owned land, full of 'barracks' to provide housing to the homeless -- even those that are unrepentant 'stoners', drunks, and crazies! I've written a bunch of posts about it over the past few years, and never garnered any support for the idea, from anyone, liberal or conservative.

We have many square miles of federally-owned land, easily accessible by railroad and highway, and in parts of it like Nevada, there's already lots of old infrastructure and buildings that could be refurbished and repaired for occupancy. These wouldn't be lavish accommodations but they would provide shelter and bathing facilities, and they would be attended-to by (as much as I hate to advocate it) a staff of government workers or subcontractors, providing free food, free medical services, free clothes, and even free drugs and alcohol -- but with certain, strict behavioral conditions, and under a watchful police force to keep order.

I know... this doesn't sound like a rock-solid Conservative talking now, but I'm very serious. We need to get them OUT of our cities and towns where they spread filth and disease everywhere, use creeks and streams as toilets, start disastrous wildfires in drought-afflicted areas, commit crimes of many different kinds, and on and on. Either we isolate and sequester those who have essentially given up on life, or, they will continue making the lives of the rest of us an ongoing, ungovernable misery....

 

The price of living in big cities. Out here in the boonies we don't have homeless or needles or feces on the streets. We don't even have streets, just farm roads. You make your choices and live with them.

 

I agree with you in spirit, but we've got to do something about getting homeless bums out of the cities and towns or I can promise you -- in time the criminal, diseased blight that they cause will eventually spread to even our most secluded, pastoral 'backwoods' areas. At that point, your rural police forces will be overwhelmed with them, and hounded endlessly by 'advocacy' groups that drag the police into courts for merely trying to enforce the LAWS.

Then, it's down to just you and the growing, spreading 'zombie' swarms! How can anyone avoid them once they 'move in'...? An "enemy at the gates" rapidly turns into an "enemy in YOUR backyard".... And if you dare to try to take the law into your own hands, guess who our Democrat-controlled bureaucrats and liberal judges are going to come after!




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A nearby small city here solves the problem with a large homeless shelter. It was built with private money. If a homeless person is caught living on the streets they are picked up by police and deposited at the homeless shelter. No drug or alcohol use allowed there. If they break that policy they are run out of town and they can hitchhike to a large blue city where they can live as they please.

If they can recover from their homelessness thanks to the shelter then they can get a job and live like the rest of us. We just don't tolerate wokeness around here. All it takes is common sense and the mission to protect the citizens rather than the homeless. One learns quickly the advantages of living in a red state.

 

I congratulate you, and those in the nearby city you mentioned, on your common sense, honesty, and practicality in addressing the homeless 'problem'. I hope your methods continue to work well for all concerned, but be careful that none of the many hyperliberal 'wokesters' in America find out about what you have going there, or else you'll probably be invaded by 'homeless advocacy' groups, lobbyists, activists, and -- worst of all -- 'pro bono' legal groups who make a specialty of inundating communities like yours in endless legal snares, restraining orders, and dubious lawsuits for enormous 'damages'. Beware!



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Um okay. What do you want him to do, specifically?

 

My streets have none of the things listed in the OP, and i doubt most of the others posting in this thread have them on their streets.

 

I know the solution to solve the problem instantly. Literally, over night. Are you ready? Give them homes with no strings attached and no rent required. Done. I mean, if you're so bothered by feces and needles and what not, there you go. Now the feces and needles are off the streets and your delicate eyes never have to see them again. If you protest against this idea, then you really don't care about solving the problem of homelessness at all. It's always been that simple.

 

OK... please, just one question: Who is going to PAY for the "homes with no strings attached and no rent required" that you suggest 'We, the People' should provide to the homeless...? Or, if it's not 'We, the People', then who is it that is going to provide this funding? Thank you!

 

I have say it. Having read many of your posts, I guess you hate everybody in the government, but I guess most Republicans are the worst. How does that get us anywhere?

 

I don’t feel obligated to explain a position I don’t hold. If you want to understand my ideal politician, read up on Ron Paul.

 

Okay, you are mostly libertarian. You are the guys who pull just enough votes from the Republican candidates to throw the elections to the Democrats. As a result, the big government, authoritarian politicians get more power, which should be direct opposite of your political philosophy.