Black Reparations.

I have never seen such a bullshit claim in that area.

Later Bro. calling it a night

stay safe

 

No it doesn't.

 

It most certainly does

 

Not to me so no it doesn't.

 

Trade demands there is someone to buy an item.
The idea that African people back then had slaves to sell so if that hadnt happened there would be no slavery in the US , so all slavery in the US is their fault is patent nonsense.
White Europeans were happy customers for nearly 200 years to enrich their state and personal fortunes to a degree still enjoyed today.
Slavery enabled British families to build enormous houses, vacuum up huge numbers of pieces of great art, some still in British homes and museums, financed banks to back the start of the Industrial Revolution and founded great cities such as Manchester (cotton) and Liverpool and Portsmouth like Bristol.
The idea that Africans practised slavery so it was their fault the west made huge fortunes and formed national histories is impossible to defend.
THE WEST DIDNT HAVE TO BUY THEM.
They did so in order to enrich themselves. At which point all righteous morality flies out of the window.

 

They enjoy the wealth slavery created every day.
IMO reparations are impossible and a dangerous principle but let's not shrug off the benefits slavery brought to the west and which allowed it to dominate the world even today.

 

Everyone alive today in this country enjoys the benefits of slavery.

 

At last! youre finally considering the idea of reparations. knew youd get there.

"portuguese slaves which is not a known goup" by you. just because you have absolutley no clue as to who so called african americans are "they came from africa!" well yeh, africa is a big place, bigger than usa, china and europe COMBINED. what use is it to so- called african american curiousity that they came from africa? this is the problem, you dont care thats why you havent researched it beyond wikipedia. ion the other hand have spent decades researching this and ive discovered something literally NO white folk know about, apart from a few contemporary iberian scholars.

so ill repeat, the ppl you call "african-americans" or rather, the ppl taken capitve in the americas are descended from the portuguese whom were either a) exiled from iberia to west africa or b) migrated from iberia to west africa. this is attested to in portuguese archives. the population of portuguese in west africa at the time was considerable and the population only grew over the period of gold coast slave so- called trade over the course of its 300 year course. imagine how populations increase over hundreds of years, for example, uk has nearly doubled in 50 years.

 

no more so than, bush, obama, blair etc, in fact idi amin is a real hero of his ppl, not a colonizer and imperialist like the aforementioned europeans.

idi amin REALLY DID DEFEND HIS COUNTRY not like these fake western leaders that pretend to defend their country when its not even under attack in order to disguise their true intention of world dominance.

 

BREAKING NEWS FLASH - ppl die in civil wars/

are you mad that idi amin kicked out all the british- indian colonialists?

most ugandans supported his move of kicking them out, they were bleeding the country dry. now, if idi amin were a european, he might have gassed them all in ovens but idi amin was an honest and righteous man.

 

Sometimes I wish we had a laugh function like Facebook.... Then I would not have had to take in the time to post this post to tell you how laughable that your post is.

 

I agree. Reparations are moronic. Yes people in need sometimes need help. But when that NEED is the result of terrible life decisions I have less empathy.

And no, life today is NOT impacted by actions from centuries ago. Explain why Jews, the MOST discriminated and tortured/executed group in history, are still successful? Because family and education are paramount. Certain other groups have different priorities.

Anyone living TODAY blaming slavery for their troubles is a moron, unless they want to blame all the slave traders in Africa that made it all possible. There wouod be no trade without blacks selling other blacks. FACT!!

Even attempts at blaming discrimination from 80 yrs ago is a push. There are endless opportunities programs and organizations dedicated to helping ONLY black people succeed. There are ZERO that ONLY help Jews for example, besides programs operated by ourselves. The destruction of the black family is the underlying problem and that is self inflicted. Don’t make excuses and confront the problem. Democrats won’t do that. They call any black people who want intelligent discussion, Uncle Toms and anyone white, racists. It’s far easier to victim blame and make excuses, because excuses are EASY. WORK and TRUTH ARE HARD!!

Any shortcomings in your life is of your own making not accounting for illnesses. ALWAYS!!! Mental and physical illness effects everyone though. However dead people don’t make LIFE decisions for you. Anything else is an excuse.

 

There's no contradiction in the statement- but possibly in the perception.
Smart would understand what I said.... and I think that is your contradiction.

 

Look who it is...

Here you go..

 

because the WJE receive billions in reparations.

btw, black ppl are also jews so that makes black ppl by far the most discriminated group in history.

 

Slavery and the Holocaust: How Americans and Germans Cope With Past Evils

by Susan Neiman

concern is not “comparative evil” — which event is worse — but “comparative redemption,” how each community has responded to and reframed the memory of its unsavory past. Neiman contends that postwar Germany, after initially stumbling badly, has done the hard work necessary to grapple with and come to terms with the legacy of the Holocaust in a way that could be a lesson to America in general, and the American South in particular.

Neiman believes that people who live in a society built on injustice, even though they may not have created the injustice, are responsible for correcting it. The moral precedent for American reparations to its black citizens is rooted in Germany’s post-World War II compensation for its past crimes. If one believes German reparations ($91b +) were justified, how can one oppose them in America?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/27/books/review/learning-from-the-germans-susan-neiman.html

 

How....
The author conveniently skips over some highly relevant factors.

1. The atrocities of the Nazis occurred within the same time span at the reparations, in terms of generational years. In America, the allegations at issue took place long before anyone alive today had anything to do
with them, so "reparations" is an attempt to extract money from people who had nothing to do with the offense, and had no ability to interfere or change it- for the benefit people who had no participation in the
events at all.

2. Germany did not choose to end it's policy of exterminating the Jews- America ended if by defeating them. America did choose to end it's own slavery, which existed here as a British Colony before America was
even created, and fought the deadliest war in our history to do so.

3. The entire concept of the German atrocities was invented and perpetrated by Hitler and the German leadership. Sole responsibility.

4. The Nazis had the specific goal of exterminating the entire Jewish population. Pure genocide. It committed mass murder indiscriminately and without cause.
That is nothing like the existence of slavery in America, which followed the same fashion that slavery had existed as an accepted norm around much of the world for thousands of years.

5. The Americans didn't initiate the process of capturing black Africans to become slaves- black Africans did that, and had been doing so for centuries before the new world was even discovered.
Some Americans became black slaves owners because some black Africans were in the business of selling black slaves.

6. The majority of slaves brought to the new world did not come to America- less than 4% of them did. And the descendants of slaves that came to America have been lifted to a far greater quality of life than the
descendants of their brothers who did not and still live in their native homeland today.

People write articles to support their own objectives. Honest people recognize all the factors surrounding the situation they write about and balance their argument to the facts.
That author of this article knows the above statements are true, but chooses to pretend they aren't because they defeat the perception she wants to create.
If you think about it, you can see where Hitler used similar strategy- leaving out the points that would defeat your objective, to validate the extermination of the jews, and convince the German people to believe it was righteous.

 

blacks enjoy the wealth created by industrious whites and Asians and enjoy the freedoms created by the reconstruction amendments.

 

If it isn't genetics, blacks are the product of culture they no more control than whites control their culture.

How about we resolve to help people in need and not base help on race, ethnicity, gender, etc?

 

Yes but...and I write this as someone with very close Jewish ancestry.
Someone very much did help Jews to recover post the Holocaust...the Jewish state of Israel and the VERY STRONG message that anti semitism is evil. A taboo.
I am not criticising this...it was a timely and very clever ( said without malice) way to protect Jews from further hatred and discrim8nation.
There has been no such umbrella under which the black community can hide. If there is some move towards one ( BLM for example) the right calls it everything from fascist to communist , depending on their understanding of the terms. They truly rear up at any attempt to construct a unified black voice but at the same time tell them to stop whingeing and begging and to make it on their own.
There is no safe space like the Jews had...their own country and international sympathy which smoothed their path.
And anyway, they often looked white.

 

we have spent trillions on the "war on poverty" and it has created dependence and addiction to government programs. Affirmative action is a perfect example-rich black students know they don't have to get a 4.0 and a 35 on the ACT to get into Stanford or Harvard so they don't make the effort and since they still get in ahead of white and asians who do, there is no need to change the culture. Why do you think it is that places like Harvard law school -which if we went purely by numbers, should be less than 2% Jewish but in reality has many times that percentage or Asians at Cornell engineering being far higher than they are in terms of Asian students in US High schools?

 

And just how do you think white people became wealrhy?
By going into the fields and picking the cotton all day that made Manchester one of the wealthiest cities in Britain?
Did they watch their children being sold so that more strong white men who could be profitable could be bought ?
Did they repair roads, cut down trees and build buildings?
Did white people accept that black people raped their wives?
Gosh. White people REALLY suffered for their wealth...

 

It is one thing to get in.
And another to stay in.
And many Asians were not educated in US High schools. They travel from their own countries to go to prestigious schools abroad. The same thing happens in the UK.

 

well I know how one of my ancestors became the wealthiest man in a certain area of the country in the late 1700s and it had nothing to do with slavery. He never owned slaves and his businesses which included real estate development and vineyards neither needed nor used slave labor. You seem to ignore that most of the labor in north was white and that is where the heavy industry was located. Both sides of my family had engineering backgrounds and the area I come from-Cincinnati, Ohio, was a major center for the machine tool industry and those industries=one of which started in the 1840s=never had slave labor. The massive industrial centers in the Hartford area of CT-where the arms manufacturing businesses of Colt and many other gun makers were centered didn't use slave industry.

 

so why are they getting the real grades there? why do the children of "Boat people" score so much higher than blacks on US standardized tests? are you going to claim that the SAT and ACT is biased in favor of kids who came here without anything from Viet Nam?