Trump Wanted I.R.S. Investigations of Foes, Gen. Kelly says

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Patricio Da Silva, Nov 15, 2022.

  1. WhoDatPhan78

    WhoDatPhan78 Banned

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2021
    Messages:
    8,497
    Likes Received:
    5,066
    Trophy Points:
    113
  2. Overitall

    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2021
    Messages:
    12,210
    Likes Received:
    11,567
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    From a biblical perspective God never exempted the poor from paying their tithes. 10% was a universal amount expected for the services the Priests provided them.

    Even with the government collecting from only those that can afford to pay, the poor will still be poor. For them to pay 10% of their earnings, for the services they receive isn't gonna break them. If anything perhaps the costs of goods they buy may end up being cheaper since businesses won't have to pay as much for tax accountants and compliance. Plus the 87000 new IRS agents won't be needed, saving the taxpayers more money.
     
    CharisRose likes this.
  3. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,736
    Likes Received:
    46,529
    Trophy Points:
    113
    CharisRose likes this.
  4. WhoDatPhan78

    WhoDatPhan78 Banned

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2021
    Messages:
    8,497
    Likes Received:
    5,066
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You can choose to avoid information if you want.
     
  5. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,736
    Likes Received:
    46,529
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Especially when below a certain point you aren't paying federal taxes to begin with.
     
    CharisRose likes this.
  6. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,736
    Likes Received:
    46,529
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yeah except all the things I said have been proven.
     
    CharisRose likes this.
  7. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Messages:
    31,168
    Likes Received:
    28,656
    Trophy Points:
    113
    My first question is why this isn't a discussion of mr Biden? It seems entirely clear that threads like this are a distraction from the now pretty obvious criminality of the current administration, and the need to do anything to deflect from it. So, we have "but what about orange man bad" threads instead.

    My comment would be, if we have to look historically, why isn't this also about how the Obama folks actually did this, and Louis was allowed to slink away.. But hey, orange man bad, still dominates the thinking of the left. My second question is, given the acceptance by our lefty friends that this behavior was okie dokie then, and now. It does seem pretty problematic then that pointing out this from a lefty perspective is just as damning to the current administration that is using the IRS in this fashion.
     
    CharisRose likes this.
  8. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2016
    Messages:
    43,429
    Likes Received:
    19,165
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Huh?

    Oh dear God! :roll:
     
  9. Overitall

    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2021
    Messages:
    12,210
    Likes Received:
    11,567
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That was directed at anyone who claims to be a Christian. They would know that Jesus didn't exempt the poor from giving "unto Caesar that which belongs to Caesar . . . ."
     
    CharisRose likes this.
  10. Overitall

    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2021
    Messages:
    12,210
    Likes Received:
    11,567
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Exactly. The whole saying of paying their "fair share" takes on a different meaning when there are some not paying anything.
     
    CharisRose and vman12 like this.
  11. WhoDatPhan78

    WhoDatPhan78 Banned

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2021
    Messages:
    8,497
    Likes Received:
    5,066
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They have not. You clearly didn't read either of the links i provided you.
     
  12. Overitall

    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2021
    Messages:
    12,210
    Likes Received:
    11,567
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Hell, they are still talking about "Russian collusion" today.
     
    CharisRose and vman12 like this.
  13. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,736
    Likes Received:
    46,529
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The 4 years of Russian collusion nonsense didn't happen?

    Obama didn't target political enemies with the IRS?

    The Obama admin didn't sell guns to drug cartels?

    What a load of nonsense.
     
    CharisRose likes this.
  14. WhoDatPhan78

    WhoDatPhan78 Banned

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2021
    Messages:
    8,497
    Likes Received:
    5,066
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He did not.
     
  15. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,736
    Likes Received:
    46,529
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sure. The Tea Party slipped and fell onto their BOLO lists that they kept getting caught using after they said they stopped like 5 times.

    All those journalists also weren't targeted by Obama either.

    He also didn't blame the arab spring on an innocent cartoonist, lying through is teeth on TV.

    Just stop.
     
    CharisRose and Overitall like this.
  16. WhoDatPhan78

    WhoDatPhan78 Banned

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2021
    Messages:
    8,497
    Likes Received:
    5,066
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Keep avoiding the information, and it's easy to believe what you want.
     
    Hey Now likes this.
  17. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,736
    Likes Received:
    46,529
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I get bored bouncing reality off people's foreheads like a tennis ball.

    Believe whatever you want. It's not like anything can penetrate.
     
    CharisRose likes this.
  18. Overitall

    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2021
    Messages:
    12,210
    Likes Received:
    11,567
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Isn't that what you are doing? You've been presented with information that you keep avoiding.
     
    CharisRose likes this.
  19. WhoDatPhan78

    WhoDatPhan78 Banned

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2021
    Messages:
    8,497
    Likes Received:
    5,066
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No, nothing anyone has posted here is new to me.

    The links i posted are from 2017 and beyond that show the conclusion of the IG report, which is complete information.

    You guys are still going off media reports from 2012 and 2013.
     
  20. Trixare4kids

    Trixare4kids Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2021
    Messages:
    8,557
    Likes Received:
    11,640
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Kelly allegedly told the Times this during an interview.
    It basically comes down to Kelly's word against Trump's in the end though. Also, the IRS denies ever doing a revenge audit for partisans.

    John Kelly Says Trump Wanted IRS to Investigate His Rivals: Report (people.com)
     
    CharisRose likes this.
  21. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    41,184
    Likes Received:
    16,184
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
  22. Overitall

    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2021
    Messages:
    12,210
    Likes Received:
    11,567
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Then you shouldn't have any problem debunking the claims made if you're that familiar with them. It's odd that you just wave them off instead.
     
    CharisRose likes this.
  23. Trixare4kids

    Trixare4kids Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2021
    Messages:
    8,557
    Likes Received:
    11,640
    Trophy Points:
    113


    If true, it's not right but what proof do you have that indicates anyone was audited because of Trump's revenge?
    Do you seriously believe a Democratic President wouldn't threaten to do the same, weaponize the IRS to go after conservative groups?

    IRS Apologizes For Aggressive Scrutiny Of Conservative Groups : NPR
     
    Last edited: Nov 28, 2022
    CharisRose and ButterBalls like this.
  24. WhoDatPhan78

    WhoDatPhan78 Banned

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2021
    Messages:
    8,497
    Likes Received:
    5,066
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I provided two links that have more complete information.

    I'm not going to waste time typing it up so you can just ignore it.
     
  25. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    51,796
    Likes Received:
    38,142
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You didn't actually believe that was the sole intellectual property of the DNC and their bag of tricks, did you?
     
    CharisRose and Trixare4kids like this.

Share This Page