Who replaces Kamala Harris as veep if Biden steps down?

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Who replaces Kamala Harris as veep if Biden steps down?

Poll closed Jan 9, 2024.
  1. Gavin Newsom

    2 vote(s)
    10.0%
  2. Pete Buttigieg

    5 vote(s)
    25.0%
  3. Gretchen Whitmer

    2 vote(s)
    10.0%
  4. Cory Booker

    2 vote(s)
    10.0%
  5. Elizabeth Warren

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Bernie Sanders

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Amy Klobuchar

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Stacey Abrams

    2 vote(s)
    10.0%
  9. Other

    7 vote(s)
    35.0%
  1. JohnHamilton

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    Yes, the Easter Bunny did save Biden from saying something stupid. Come to think of it, maybe the Easter Bunny should be a member of the cabinet. It would do better than the current Secretary of Energy and the Attorney General.
     
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    At least Obama could tell him what to do more effectively that way.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I heard him say "so help me God" when he was sworn in. If he was true to his creed wouldn't he say, "so help me Allah"?
     
  4. JohnHamilton

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    Politicians will say anything to get elected. I didn’t know that he is a Muslim, if that’s really true, It doesn’t matter. Since he is a far left Democrat, I have no interest in seeing him get more power. That’s what counts.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't think you get a name like Akhim unless....
     
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    Given what we've had for "Presidents" in recent decades, it's obvious they weren't the ones really in charge, anyway. So, Kamala or whoever is "President", 'those in charge'' will still be in charge in the background.
     
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    I could not disagree more. Biden is a puppet because of his mental state, but Bush 41, Trump and Obama were most certainly in charge up to their constitutional limits.
     
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    African-Americans often give their children Muslin sounding names.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mohammed Ali- Muslim. Kareem Abdul Jabar- Muslim, yeah I know.
     
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    Neither one of their parents gave them those names. Lol
     
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    One other point... even though I voted here that Cory Booker would be promoted to become vice-president, the best choice for Democrats would be for the MOST INTELLIGENT person on this list -- Amy Klobuchar! But, please, don't tell anybody else. The only thing worse than today's Democrat politicians is a Democrat politician who is INTELLIGENT! She is, even though she is definitely a dyed-in-the-wool liberal... a rare thing, indeed, and potentially very disruptive to all of us who are Conservatives!
     
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    If by chance, Biden were to resign or step down, would we be prepared for a woman President of the United States? It could be possible. There will be those that do not want a woman President and many of us can understand that. Will we be surprised if Kamala Harris were to be President and who will she hand pick for vice-President? Time will tell.
     
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    It's a shame there's no LOL emojis on this board in the Like option because Biden running for a second term is so funny
     
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    The problem is most Americans don’t want Biden nor Trump to run again in 2024. But both seem determined to do so. 26% of all Americans want Biden to run again, 54% don’t, 20% not sure/undecided. As for Trump 27% of all Americans want him to run again, 56% say no, 17% not sure/undecided. Questions 42 and 43.

    https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/by8wjw1hur/econTabReport.pdf

    The question is, will the two major parties listen to the American people and their wants and wishes or will each go ahead and nominate these two old foggies who most Americans want to see gone. Out of politics. I think it’s time for some fresh young faces from both parties. I sure which ever party runs a fresh young face against one or the other of these old foggies will win in 2024. Most Americans have had enough of these two, now only if the two major parties would realize that.
     
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    Who does the voting through the primaries? I'm UK, so I'm not 100% geared up to how you guys work out who runs for president.

    I assume several candidates start and various voting things happen, until each side has a final candidate?
     
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    Yes, and that's part of why I wanted Sen. Tom Cotton to run for president! I'd really like to see an INTELLIGENT, ETHICAL person, between about 50 - 60 years old, of either party running in '24, but right now there very few who could meet both those criteria....
     
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    I have come to wish that we had a parliamentary system like yours in Britain. Your system makes it MUCH easier and faster to flush the "turds" down the toilet, and then start over!
     
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    Pretty much correct. Republicans and Democrats have their own primaries. Which is fine. But each major party’s base makes up around 30% of the electorate with independents making up the remaining 40%. Most primaries are closed which means only registered Republicans can vote in Republican primaries while only registered Democrats vote in the democratic primaries.


    Trump is liked by Republicans, Biden by Democrats, so I wouldn’t be surprised if both get their parties nominations. But both are disliked by America as a whole. So, come general election time although 90% of Republicans and Democrat like their own candidates, both major party candidate are usually liked or wanted by around 40-45% of all Americans. In our two-party system, Republicans and Democrats have a monopoly on our electoral system or process. It’s not unusual for the majority of the public to dislike whoever wins. In 2020 25% of all Americans thought neither Trump nor Biden would make a good president. But those were our choices.


    25% in U.S. Say Neither Candidate Would Be a Good President


    https://news.gallup.com/poll/317474...utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication


    Another way to look at this, 38% of Americans thought Trump would make a good president, 33% who said Trump only plus 5% who said both. 41% thought Biden would make a good president, 36% who said Biden only plus the 5% who said both. So, our system produces a result in which 60% give or take of all Americans think the winner won’t be a good president. That’s our 2-party system.
     
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    I will be for Ron DeSantis all the way. Hasn't been in politics long enough to be owned.
     
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    The great strength that Democrats have -- especially now that their party has embraced a very liberal, 'woke' direction -- is that they are very focused, organized, and disciplined... and, by contrast, none of those descriptions apply to the Republican Party right now.

    Republicans had grown more and more divided internally between conservative-constitutionalists, and, "RINO's" (Republicans-in-name-only), and the results have been very damaging, even in 2022, a year in which Republicans should have easily swept both houses of Congress, but instead only won the House of Representatives by the slimmest of margins.

    As a result, Democrats can pretty much use whatever strategy they like, and at the moment it appears that their "insiders" want to create an 'exit-point' -- SOON -- for Joe Biden, thus creating a 'caretaker' regime with Kamala Harris in the Oval Office. Who takes over as VP when Kamala gets promoted?

    Well, given that Kamala is regarded as being even more of an 'albatross' around the neck of the Democrat Party than Biden is, the new VP will be someone that their insiders will be carefully grooming to be their front-runner in 2024! A strong contender would be Senator Cory Booker, of New Jersey.

    Why not Hakeem Jeffries, the current House Minority Leader of the Democrats? He's exactly what the Democrats already want in place running their faction in the House -- and they would not want to disturb that while he's getting the spotlight and growing power there! But, Cory Booker would be the perfect VP, because he (like Hakeem) is Black, very liberal, and comes from an electorate that cannot possibly elect a replacement for him except -- you guessed it -- another liberal, Black Democrat! No risk... no liability!

    And best of all, Democrats could crow that they're the first political party in history (always the most important thing in the world to them) to have TWO Blacks running the entire Executive Branch of the Government -- Kamala Harris, and, Cory Booker! Slam dunk! No more "senile, stupid old White guy"... a winning strategy for sure!
     
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    It's not "the Parties," that is, leadership, which decides-- it's their Primary voters, which is a narrower group than all those of either Party, willing to respond to a pollster.
     
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    I used the word parties in a generic or general way. Yes, the voters in the primaries decide. It is usually the more hard-core party members that vote in the primaries of both parties. You had a bit more than 18 million votes cast in the 2020 Republican Primaries. There were 158 plus million votes cast in the 2020 presidential general election. 11% of those who voted in November determined one of the presidential nominees. That’s not an accurate way of showing the differences between primary voters and general election voters because the Republicans didn’t have contested primary. The Democrats did, there were 31 million who voted in the Democratic primaries, roughly 20% of those who voted in the general election of 2020.


    You had approximately 260 Americans eligible to vote in 2020, out of that 62% voted in the presidential general election, 11.5 percent of the eligible voter decided the Democratic nominee in their primaries while 7% decided the Republican nominee. What we had was 18.5% of eligible voters deciding who would be the general election candidates or 31% of those who voted in the November general election deciding who would be the candidates.


    The point is that it isn’t America as a whole that decides who will be the presidential choices. It’s a minority of the voters, the more hard-core voters of each party that decides. What all of Americans wants is irrelevant to what the two major parties want in determining who runs or not. 47% of Democrats want Biden to run again in 2024 vs. 26% of all Americans. 49% of Republicans want Trump to run again in 2024 vs. 27% of all Americans. The 49 and 47% of party members, voters are probably enough to get both nominated as they represent the largest faction within each party. But it isn’t what most Americans want. What most Americans want always gets lost in the inner workings of the two major parties. The two major parties only serve themselves, not America as a whole.


    https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/by8wjw1hur/econTabReport.pdf


    I’ll stand by my prediction, if the Democrats run a fresh young face vs. Trump, that fresh young face will win. If the Republicans run a fresh young face vs. Biden, that fresh young face will win. The majority of voters don’t want neither Trump nor Biden. Will they, all of America be listen to or will the two major parties ignore them and go their own route.
     
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    The trouble with the presidential primaries is that it’s mostly the party activists who vote. As a result, the prize has gone to the more extreme elements of the two parties. Trump has an artificial hold on the Republicans because his base is very dedicated and loud. Overall Trump probably has a lock on no more than 40 to 45 percent of the voters. He might even be in the minority among Republican primary voters.

    I favor only allowing registered Democrats and Republicans to vote in their respective primaries. Some of those who cross over into the other party might do so only to cause trouble. The Democrats gave money to Trump endorsed candidates in the 2022 congressional and senatorial primaries because they perceived that those people would be the weaker candidates in the general elections. That strategy appeared to pay dividends for the Democrats.
     
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    And yet when a "minority of voters", that "more hard-core party members", finally become disgusted and alienated enough to break away from the Republican Party, they always fail! The examples of conservative-constitutionalist 'hard-core' Republicans deserting "Daddy" H. Bush in 1992, and Bob Dole in 1996 stand out clearly!

    Nothing like that has even come close to happening in the Democrat Party since the 'bad old days' under Lyndon Johnson. And during the Watergate scandals that eviscerated the Republican Party, Democrats regrouped, became disciplined under a new, dynamic form of liberalism, and found a "fresh, young face" within their ranks (Bill Clinton).

    Today, in 2023? I agree that both major parties will find "fresh, young(er) faces" and slug it out in 2024 accordingly. But Republicans will go into this fray with a distinct disadvantage, because they are split into two different camps -- that 'conservative-constitutionalist' faction I mentioned earlier, and, "RINO's" (Republicans-in-name-only), who are mostly just 'in-it-to-win-it', along with all the lobbyists and corporate donors, who play the stock markets and laugh at the rest of us.

    Disclosure: I voted for Ross Perot -- twice. :no: But I learned something from that... all it does is give victory to Democrats.
     
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