Participants of the contest "Miss Universe".

Soon Western politicians will do it.

 

you all can try, but we will never be like Russia

 

Don't know what you refer to saying using racism to solve racism. Did you make that up? For what purpose?

So there's been no racism in USA in your view?

Your response comes off as absolute nonsense.
How about addressing topics instead of making things up?

 

LOL. The gov't is trying to increase non whites?
For votes? Aren't the latin voters going more R than D?

 

Then explain the desire to welcome illegal aliens. I have found no other logical explanation for it. We should be welcoming legal immigrants.

 

So locking up and deporting illegals, is your idea of welcoming them? I'll remember that, if you ever invite me over, for dinner.

 

It's a self fulfilling prophecy.
The rights screams about ''open borders'' and ''welcoming immigrants'' and then try to blame the left when more people turn up at the border because they've heard the borders are open and they will be welcomed.

 

Don't worry. I won't invite you to dinner. Illegals should be turned back at the border. Every single one. Giving them government paid transportation, food, shelter and money is the best way to motivate more illegal entries. There is a process for claiming asylum. It involves going to a port of entry, not crossing a river by the millions.

 

All non sequitur nonsense. Just turning them around, at the border, is going to stop their continued attempts, why? And our transporting them to parts of the border, unfamiliar to them, hundreds of miles away from their support systems, you see as our footing the bill for some sort of vacation, for them?

As to your last sentence, I believe there are already more applying for asylum by the prescribed process, than we have a sufficient number of judges to hear the cases of, so that would be one place where common sense dictates we change things. I do not think either of us, know either the law or the practices, pertaining to asylum claims, coming from illegal border crossers.

 

Because when people find out that illegal immigration is no longer working, people will stop trying. Common sense rather than non-sense.

No, I see it as the importation of future voters for democrats. Vote buying is endemic in our governance.

Then those asylum seekers should be turned around as well. The huge majority of asylum requests who get before a judge are declined. They don't leave the country. There are so many of them we can't deal with them as we should. The immigration laws need to be thrown out and replaced with some that are not nonsense. Legal immigration is good for America. Illegal immigration, obviously, is a disaster.

 

Do you know any other countries on Earth named "Italy" or "Argentina?"

 

But you are wrong. What, did no American administration ever have the brilliance of Trump's, to turn around, illegal border crossers? They just keep trying. Since we cannot monitor every bit of the border, every minute, they eventually succeed. So your argument is predicated on a fantasy. The immigrants are the ones who show the common sense, if they are merely turned around on their first attempt, to "try, try again."

Again, your reply makes no sense, indicating that you have no familiarity with the border practices of the Biden admin., which you criticize. They don't just bring them to another part of our own side of the border, and let them free. Instead of letting them walk back to wherever they're just come from, the Biden policy has been to first, move them hundreds of miles to a different part of the border, before sending them back over to the Mexican side. So all your talk about Democratic "voters," is nonsense.

Btw, before this current policy, the Biden admin. was flying these illegal crossers, who'd come from Central America, all the way down to an isolated part of the southernmost part of Mexico, well over a thousand miles from the border. And you view that as less effective than just turning them around?

We agree-- as do, I think, most-- that our immigration laws are past due, for an overhaul. This is an unattended situation, for which blame is shared, by both political Parties. Your comment above, however, once more, is not a clear relating of the facts. Most asylum claims get rejected, when they are finally heard, yes. After rejection, they are not allowed to stay, no. But in the interim, yes, the policy has long been, that the asylum applicants could wait for their hearing, in our country, with the requirement of their regularly checking in with officials. Failure to make their scheduled meetings, results in immediate revocation of their asylum claim. It is contradictory of you, if you are claiming that most don't show up for their hearings, while at the same time asserting that most claims are denied. I do not believe that this is due, mostly, to their failure to appear at these hearings. If you have proof to the contrary, I am happy to look at it.

But, once again, this has long been the system. It is ridiculous, then, to suddenly blame the system he inherited, completely on Biden. The problem is that there is a six year backlog, of these asylum cases. Obviously, more judges are needed; yet the Republican "solution," is to defund immigration services. We also could use an expedited assessing of these claims, when they're made, to weed out many of those who are not political, but only economic, refugees. Again, this is: 1) not something that Biden or Mayorkas can just wave their hands, and make magically appear; and 2) something that will require more, not less, funding.

 

I couldn't disagree more virulently. Sorry. You are accepting government pablum and politicians lies without looking into many, many facts. It's OK to disagree.

 

Post the links on who has this desire to welcome illegal immigrants.
Then maybe an answer can be given

 

Of course. That's what debating is all about. Even in PF unofficial debates, I doubt that most arguments end up changing someone's opinion.

But, when one can show me, that I am being lied to, I certainly am one, who does welcome, new information. I have no preconceived notions that I feel I must defend, for their own sake, that is, because I "want" to believe them.

So, the question becomes-- if you say that there are "many, many facts," which I am not looking into-- why would you not, and can you, supply links, to some of these facts, which you think that I'm missing?

 

In the US, there really are crazy people in power who promote insane tolerance.
For example. In the new season of the Netflix series Vikings: Valhalla, a black hero appeared, represented by a resident of medieval Novgorod.


This is incredibly stupid. Blacks never lived in ancient Russia. And even in modern Novgorod, blacks can be found very, very rarely. Moreover, 100% of them are foreigners.
But idiots promote tolerant idiocy into the mass consciousness.
By the way - Tolerance is a medical term taken from transplantation and means the body's inability to distinguish foreign organs. This state is achieved by gradual suppression of the body's immune system by toxic substances, leading the body to apathy and death. And it is this process that we are now witnessing in the US and Europe.

 

I try to be reasonable in my responses to you and I get back nonsense like this? You can do better.

 

You don't need a link. You need to spend some time on Fox listening to the leaders of the border patrol and watching the reports made from the border. You won't find any of that on your media. Why do you think the new congress is trying to impeach Mayorkas? Constant lies. He says the border is closed yet 2 million people enter illegally in a single year. But if you prefer to believe government over your lying eyes then, as you say, nothing here will change your mind.

 

No it is actually your turn. I offered a hypothesis based on common sense. I'm waiting for yours.

 

That our border is not sealed, tight as a drum, is an obvious fact: as it was, under Trump, and under every President before them.

 

Old news South America has been dominating Miss Universe for decades.

 

No, we are not homogeneous. There are "Black Irishmen who actually wear kilts" for instance. And if you look at British cuisine, it is heavily influenced by Asian Indian cuisine and its curry flavor, or instance. They are representing their country, not race, and somehow you cannot tell the difference.

 

Since you only read news that Russia allows you to read, the vast majority of Americans do not buy into this. We just sit back and laugh just like you are doing right now.

It is all some extremist liberal propaganda that very few sheep follow.

 

It is WIDE open with administration policies acting as motivation for more illegal immigration.

 

Hmm, this is an interesting complaint because I got curious just now and did some digging and apparently, black vikings did in fact exist albeit very, very, infrequently and most of them only came to be because they were captured as slaves from northern Africa. Additionally, there was one viking called "Geirmund Heljarskinn" or Hel-Skinned and while not black persay, had "dark-skin" and looked to be of East Asian descent.

https://thehistorianshut.com/2019/08/20/the-adventurous-life-of-geirmund-hel-skin/

https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geirmund_Heljarskinn