Kamala Harris omits right to 'life' when quoting Declaration of Independence in abortion speech

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  1. flyboy56

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    Please explain why this is the reason she omitted Life?
     
  2. FreshAir

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    the potential mother has the choice to risk her life and limbs having a baby
     
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    Nah...Not Really...
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    Never heard that word "semanics"...
    BUT, my argument is far from "specious"...
    And, once again, anybody reading anything "sinister" into Kamala's "omission" of the word "life" is taking a really big leap into Tinfoill Hat/Mock Outrage Territory...
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    They established it here

    "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--........."

    Aka, the human right to life. It never established a right for a mother to purposely kill her unborn baby because she does not want it to live. Never has and never will.
     
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  5. Think for myself

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    There are 1,337 words in the Declaration of Independence. I would venture to say she used the ones most pertinent to her argument. Are you as outraged she did not use the others?

    Or is this just endless whining because some talking head told you to be mad about it?

    Bro, you are really seemingly just looking for something to rage over.
     
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  6. Think for myself

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    History fail. Your rights are in the Constitution.
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    It states our founding principles upon which our laws are founded.

    Just sayin.
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    In debate and logic it is called a lie of omission. The question is why did she have a need to do so? Answer me that.
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    Nope the Constitution establishes our form of government merely protects those rights.

    Read the next line in the DoI

    "That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --"

    Our inherent rights and the principle upon which the Constitution and our laws are based are stated in our founding document the DoI. They precede the Constitution and the government.
     
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    Is this the part where you ask the same stupid question over and over and over and over? Demanding that I pander to your post's mewling wails for intellectual peership?


    Demand it. Ask the same question again.
     
  11. Think for myself

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    Wow. So wrong.

    Now do your demanding that I answer some question routine.
     
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    of course Life is not pertinent to the Pro-Choice crowd. Tell us something we don’t know?!
     
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    The real mistake here was quoting that passage at all in this speech. Jefferson obviously didn’t have abortion in mind when he included “life” in that sentence, and omitting that word doesn’t really distort Jefferson’s meaning. Nonetheless, it sounds so dumb and awkward to leave that out that she never should have quoted the Declaration of Independence.
     
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    You don;t know how to spell of.
     
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    the born have a right to life, does the right not think so?
     
  16. Bluesguy

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    They had LIFE in mind, the life we are all created with and endowed with that inherent right to life. They did not state an exception for mothers to kill their unborn babies because they don't want them to live anymore.

    The question is why did she leave it out if she was going to cite the phrase? Instead she chose to bastardize it.
     
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    they never thought some would try to force rape victims to have their rapists babies either

    if we all have the right to life after we're born, then we should have Universal healthcare
     
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    A potential mother is one which is not pregnant. Once a mother nothing potential about it. Only if under an imminent self-defense just as you cannot take my life violating my right to life unless it's an act of imminent self-defense.

    The fact remains this only shows the word games and lies of omission and semantics the pro-abortion side must engage. It shows how inept is her speech writer and she herself by not catching how they would be call on such a BLARING case of it all.
     
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    most republicans are pro-choice, Republicans are learnign this the hard way
     
  20. Bluesguy

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    You are claiming I am wrong and you best believe when you do so I will respond and ask you to justify it and prove it.

    Now try doing so else do not participate to just strike down what I post and then run away.
     
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    nope, almost all women have many abortions in her lifetime, it's a natural part of life.... the only difference here is they are medically induced
     
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    If you don't want to have a discussion on current issues in a discussion forum about current issues then do not participate in it and stop trolling.
     
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    Can you cite that from our founding documents as I can the self evident truth to our inherent right to life with which we are CREATED.
     
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    It was literally foolish invoking the Preamble to the DOI if it required omitting part of it.

    If Harris and her speech writer had a lick of sense they would have invoked Richard Overton's assertion of the right to self-proprietorship in "An Arrow Against All Tyrants and Tyranny" and/or the precedent the Supreme Court established over a century ago upholding that right, which was mentioned by the dissenting judges in the Dobbs ruling (unfortunately the name of the case escapes me at the moment), but they didn't, and I'm guessing they didn't because they weren't aware of any of those things. If I recall correctly, the justices who wrote the Roe ruling made the same mistake, and Alito & Co. had to overlook them when they overturned Roe.

    Not only was it foolish, it was ignorant. Harris and her speech writer are/were clearly out of their shallow depth. The pro-abortion crowd would do well to find better spokespeople than those two dolts.
     
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    the right to life, what we are talking about, the potential mother has the choice to risk her life and limbs having a baby
     

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