‘Decisions are imminent’ on charges in Trump’s effort to overturn 2020 election

Ready to happen........how long is it in this case?

And what makes you think the grand jury testimony will be released it is supposed to be secret.

 

The “fraud” was just a means to an end…if Trump et. al. could sow enough confusion then the Certification of JRB as the 46th President would be postponed and eventually the issue of “who won” would be settled in the House of Representatives with each State (or Commonwealth) having 1 vote each.
The “fake electors” weren’t about trying to get Trump “elected”, just a monkey wrench in the works.

Are you new to politics?

 

Read and you have yet to point to sommething I missed. There are several plans of possible avenues which may or may not have passed court review and none were implimented.

 

Why do you keep ignoring the facts?
The very purpose of those fake electoral certificates was to give cover to Pence when he rejected the slates of electors from those states. That was only going to work if Pence treated the fake electors as "real" electors.
It wasn't about "IF Trump won", it had nothing to do with Trump winning in court. In fact by December 14, 2020 the day the electors met almost all of the court cases filed by Trump had been dismissed or dropped. In other words, even when they were filling out the fake certificates there were no court cases that could have overturned the results. So to claim that these FAKE certificates were filled out "In case" is a lie since there was no possibility of it happening.

 

And by Jan 6 it wasn't going to happen those states would not have electors counted the total would have been smalller.

 

So when the report is released that will be a Current Event. Musing about the report is political inuendo and belongs in the opinion secton of PF.

 

The only caveat to that might be the 2 states that put the conditional language in their fake elector certificates.... I think it was Penn and N.M. that did that, which the experts I read said is JUST enough to avoid the full election fraud truck running them over... still could be other minor charges, but Shapiro refused to address this in Penn as AG....

What a difference 1 sentence could make, huh?

Penn - Smart



Ga - Dumb

 

I think you misunderstood my tone. If it were truly imminent as the O/P claimed, it would have happened by now.

 

1. The grand jury does not testify. They listen to testimony and then make a report on that testimony
2. This was a "special" grand jury. It operates a little differently than a regular grand jury. Once a special grand jury makes a "presentment" it then votes on whether or not that presentment should be made public. The AG then takes the presentment to a regular grand jury and that grand jury decides on whether or not to issue indictments.

The special grand jury voted to make this report public. The question before the court is "Does this report from the special grand jury count as a 'presentment'?" I'll be honest, I haven't followed this case as closely so I don't know what the arguments are for or against making the report public.

 

Testimony is GIVEN in a grand jury and grand juries are secret for a reason which is no different here.

 

In violation of the Constitution and the ECA. But keep talking about how much you support the idea of simply invalidating several states from the count. That's the most ****ing insane proposal I've seen in years. And, no, dems never tried to do this. Neither did republicans before now. It took someone as authoritarian and insane as Trump to try this criminal bullshit.

 

Yes I agree.

 

Not really. They still need to finish bringing it back before the grand jury. But if you'd care to make a friendly wager, I have an offer for you. If they bring no charges at all, I'll donate $50 to the charity of your choice. If they do bring charges, you donate $50 to the charity of my choice. Deal? Should be easy since you obviously think there will be no charges. So put your money where your mouth is.

 

They were never to be accepted the states LOST ANY ELECTORS have the plan worked.

 

Which might be cool to those who hate the Constitution and the ECA. The rest of us are not so stoked about this attack on democracy.

 

And it was a DUMB plan(s) just as dumb for them as when the Dems thought they could get electors decertified and either not counted or replaced. Had any court case been won then a state legislature may have appointed a new slate from ones chosen by the Reps, alternates. A chance in a million though. Trump seriously believed the fraud was AGAINST him not of his doing and was be given every possible legal angle the lawyers could come up with, even the dumb ones.

I was vice-president of the Teen-age Republicans in my city in 1969 no I am not new. You can check my posting status here if you like.

 

Over and over so stop being obstinate about it. It was filled with every imaginable legal angle he could come up with dumb included.

So can you continue now?

 

Over and over again you defend overthrowing democracy, the Constitution, and the ECA by saying, "Well, he was just giving it a go." I'm sorry you think that violating the Constitution is a valid "legal angle." It isn't. We can continue when you can be honest about what was actually being attempted here. You have yet to do so.

 

What would have happened had Gore won his challenge in 2000. The certified electors would have been replaced with his "alternates". The Dems in the EC challenges wanted "alternates" to the ones who had voted.

 

That's not what Trump and Eastman were pushing. You'd know that if you would one day read the Eastman memo. This is a fake comparison. Please learn what actually happened and stop making fake comparisons.

 

ROFL there was no "over throwing Democracy" and no I did not support what he was doing. I don't think it had a legal ground to stand on. That is not the point. People go into court on shaking legal grounds on a daily basis. Stop misrepresenting my position on the matter.

 

I don't gamble online.

 

Yea it might have been for those people. The rest of us were not so stoked on the idea behind it anymore than the Dems previous challenges to the EC counting.

 

How so?

 

If you claim that one more time I will report you post and posting total lies about my position which has been explained to you. This is about was it a CRIME.