Florida sued over bans on gender-affirming care for transgender youth

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For better or worse, here it is.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._jurisdictions_banning_conversion_therapy
     
  2. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If I recall correctly, the AMA pulled some boners with the China virus and ensuing vaccine.
     
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    I think it is possible there could be a compromise--with enough creative thinking and thoughtfulness about the specific details--but unfortunately neither side seems willing to compromise, or view this in terms of anything other than a black and white issue.

    It's become a politically polarized issue, and so probably reason will not prevail.

    In my opinion, the U.S. needs to bring in some Japanese consultants and independent physicians, who have no prior ideological bias, have them examine the issues, investigate and give their recommendations. Japanese society does not really hold any views about this type of thing, and their culture is no-nonsense about these sexual issues.
     
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    I which case why did they not implement bans on surgery being performed on intersex children? Why not implement programs designed to reduce the bullying
     
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    Really? Please post your meta analysis/systematic review as evidence
     
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    I'm curious to know how young those on the Left would begin hormone blockers. 8 years old? 7 years old? Do they have to wait till 11? Or 12?

    If a girl has just begun to grow boobs the previous year, is it acceptable to have them surgically removed... even though they aren't that big, even though they only started a year ago, and even though she's already on hormone blockers so they won't grow any bigger?

    That surgery leaves some nasty and unsightly scar tissue. Okay to have this done at 13?
    Even if she doesn't have the approval of her parents? (I know those on the Left want free government funding to pay for this)

    Is it okay to start a 12 year old girl off with male hormones, even though that could give her more manly body characteristics and a deep voice, which are not reversible?
    I saw one video where a 20 year old trans (born a girl) was beginning to suffer a receding hairline and hair thinning, due to the male hormones. That may not be entirely or easily reversible.
     
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  8. Bowerbird

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    Why Japanese? Do you honestly think there is no transgenderidm in Japan?
     
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    Scam, not conspiracy. Like Apple products.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We're talking about on children in this thread, aren't we?
     
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    Yes and what has Japan got to do with it?
     
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    Got proof that will stand up on court?
     
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    I'm not an injured party I couldn't take it to court, no standing.
     
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    Where is that happening?
     
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    Sooo the answer is no
     
  16. Polydectes

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    Incorrect. I'm not an injured party if I had absolute proof it wouldn't matter.

    Do you have any idea how civil processing work? Do you even know what the threshold of evidence is?
     
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    Maybe off topic but I looked up the laws in Japan. You had to be 20 years old before you could get the procedure, but they recently lowered it to 18 last year.

    (Although I think that might be without the consent of their parents, not sure)
     
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  18. Steve N

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    Your own hell hole had some pretty bad lock downs even though they didn’t work.

    AMA moves against doctors who are spreading COVID-19 disinformation

    https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/pr...ors-who-are-spreading-covid-19-disinformation


    Medical boards get pushback as they try to punish doctors for Covid misinformation
    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/01/covid-misinfo-docs-vaccines-00003383
     
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    So no proof just your “feelings”?
     
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    You don’t actually know what a systematic review is do you? And I should have guessed that the “muh rites” antivaxx suicide squad would be squealing about medical boards trying to prevent shonky shitheads from profiting off of quackery.
     
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    This is the same AMA that claimed it was a mental illness several decades ago.
    But hey, I guess you're going to trust the 'experts', eh?
     
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    You don’t know what a systematic review is do you?
     
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    It is off topic for you. For others it is always at the front of mind just waiting to insert itself into any thought process.
     
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    Claiming that medical opinions supporting gender conversion are motivated by financial gain is far more dishonest.
     
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    You asked me about court for some reason.
     

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