Oklahoma sex offender fatally shot his wife, her 3 kids and 2 teen girls before killing himself, pol

You think I’m speaking of this particular incident? LOL. Way to keep up in the thread conversation.

 

And the cities where those crimes occur? Say it with me now…blue cities. The same ones letting felons out on multiple bonds. That’s right, the ones in direct control are dem cities.

 

How in the **** did she have custody of her children if she was shacking up with a registered sex offender convicted of RAPE in 03?
What parents let their children go to a registered sex offender's home?

 

Rural Oklahoma...... No sheep is safe.

 

people who wear seatbelts die in car wrecks
people who get vaccines still died of Covid, pneumonia etc
those who eat healthy still die from diet related issues
the guy who wrote the Joy of Running died of a heart attack
so did joe strummer of the clash who completed a marathon
people who never smoke die of lung cancer

you play the odds but its no guarantee

 

yep, both my father and one of my uncles were triple a officers on naval ships in WWII-one saw combat, the other was pulled when his naval aviator brother was KIA right before we nuked Japan. Both said that the only way to stop Kamikazes was to kill them before they hit the ship. They already were considered dead by their fellow airmen and they essentially were dead the minute they took off and nothing could scare them away

 

That's what you're bringing up now.... while YOU dragged in how a sex offender got out. You have your answer why that is.

So cops have no idea /tools to figure out who helped out arming this person.
And the likes of you support this kind of weak legislation.

That is indeed the case that people go out of state to arm themselves to commit a crime in CA. Hence it is proven that typical red states with weak gun laws are a source for crime. Generally speaking typical red states got high homicide rates. CA is under the national average. Oklahoma is above. Who knew, right?.... right?

Paperwork is not exactly just the job of a police officer. You do it when buying property and cars. etc. etc.

It's not a strawman argument at all. Your idea that the paperwork is "unnecessary" isn't backed up by anything.
While in fact, the opposite is a fact. Typical red states with weak gun laws = high homicide rates.

Absolutely not. To use the amount of homicide per 100.000 is the only way to compare apples to apples.
I'm not up for your utterly stupid anti scientific approach.

 

I can't make sense of this.

Yes absolutly. police should focus on the crime and should never be involved in oppressing people for Exercising their rights. Cops shouldn't have any idea who sold the gun as they aren't the criminal here.

Sounds like California has a problem with people.

Wait a minuet. you just said people in california leave california to circumvent California's laws to return to California and do crime there. That is a California problem. It isn't up to any other state to deal with California's stupidity.

So what. All that means is more people live in these blue states. [/QUOTE]CA is under the national average. Oklahoma is above. Who knew, right?.... right?[/QUOTE] That is just because there are more people in California. 5.8 times as many people are murdered in California.

Cars and real estate aren't guns.

I didn't mention paperwork so that isn't my idea.

All statistical rates say is that there are more people in blue states.

No it is a way to pretend 2300 peopl are fewer than 400 because the 400 have fewer neighbors.

 

You made no sense by wondering how a convicted sex offender got out on bail.
Simply put: convicted people can not get out on bail, unless they served their sentence and get a new charge.
And so the sex offending has nothing to do with the bail.

Point stands that you support that police are unable to focus on the crime of a convicted felon obtaining a firearm, due to a lack of registrations of firearms and civilians not required to find out they are selling to convicted felons.

California's average homicide rating is below average. And CA got a problem with other states having higher homicide ratings due to their crap laws.

The stupidity of other states than CA causes those states to have high homicide rates. Criminals from among places like CA are profiting of from that stupidity as well and importing it to CA. So it's obvious the states with high homicide rates need to deal with their stupidity which would help the states who aint that stupid.

So there.

Paperwork is still paperwork. If it's not a biggy to do paperwork for a car, than it's no biggy to do paperwork for a firearm.

You did mean paperwork with "you're asking people to go through something that's unnecessary"
And the necessity is proven. Typical red states with weak gun laws got high homicide rates

So what

It's not pretending that 2300 people are fewer than 400. It is taking into account who is punching above their weight and who is not.
And the typical red states with weak gun laws are punching above their weight.

 

blaming other states for California's screw ups is dishonest. trying to hide 2300 murders in a larger population is also dishonest.

 

Are you suggesting that it should be up to the govt to protect people against choosing to live with a psychopath? Or are you suggesting that without a gun, the psychopath wouldn't have been able to find an opportunity to murder people that lived with him?

 

CA is not responsible when criminals get weapons in other states where it is illegal for them to get them. Those other states are just a source for crime.

It's not hidden one bit. It's just how statistics work. It's scientific method.
And you know it as well.

 

Some only can type those words.

Rained today. Democrats fault.

 

I should have added to my previous post.
It's also blacks fault.

Dems and blacks. Only do wrong. According to some.

Males. Males commit the vast majority of crimes. Especially the violent ones.

And many live in red states.

 

You were detailing the thread? And admitted it.

 

How are they not responsible for cultivating a criminal culture?

So its people coming to CA to do crime?

There are lies, damn lies and then there are statistics.

more people are victims in CA. I don't care if they have more neighbors.

 

I spot you are not contesting "blaming other states for California's screw ups is dishonest.".
CA simply does not have any jurisdiction when criminals illegally arm themselves to the teeth with weapons in other states, because of their dumb gun laws.

How about you go figure this one out on your own.

I don't care if you do not understand statistics when entire states are punching above their weight.

 

So their gun control laws are pointless and stupid. seems it is only there to **** over the law abiding. exactly what it is for in the first place.

That is simple. California's politicians turned it into a shithole.

Seems you don't understand them. it is to make bigger numbers look smaller.

 

You say this while predominantly red states with their weak gun laws got high homicide ratings.

You say this while predominantly red states with their weak gun laws got high homicide ratings.

Punching above your weight is very simple concept, and that is what red states do with their weak gun laws. And you can only pretend to not understand it for the sake to push your agenda.

 

but fewer actual homicides. betting most of the homicide is in blue cities in red states.

 

Ohio is nominally a red state-currently a RINO governor, One senator is JD Vance, the other is one of the bigger lefties, Sherrod Brown. The major cities are run by democrats. The most dangerous areas in Ohio are all run by Democrats

 

Yeah democrats operate much like the sopranos. but I would say the same thing for the GOP.

 

well I can tell you this

every single democrat on the US Supreme court has voted against gun rights every time it is before the court. The GOP appointees are far more likely to vote for gun rights though Stevens (who oozed RINO) and Souter did not. but again, there has never been a case of a democratic appointee to the USSC supporting the second amendment

 

It's not the gun but the person pulling the trigger who kills so with regard to the murder statistics it is evident that Americans are the last people on earth who should be allowed guns. That's right.

 

Agreed. gop nominees to the court are better than DNC nominees. I don't know why they can't be liberal without being activists. But i was thinking more about people like crenshaw.