How is this not worse ?

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  1. JonK22

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    Maybe, maybe not, but she sure didn't call for violence, although Diaper Donnie misrepresented it as that, hence the entire right wing followed his lead!
     
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    When Waters said to harass them, violence is exactly what she meant.
     
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    Jan 06 for $200 Alex?
     
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    She said, "push back on them". That's assault.
     
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    Thank you for agreeing that harassment can be considered violence.
     
  6. JonK22

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    LOL, Sure
     
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    She literally told people to get out and form a crowd and push back on them anywhere they found elected Republicans in public locations.

    But of course the hypocrites don't see a damn thing wrong with that. Nothing but pure partisan hypocrisy
     
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    Talk about confused. If they were inciting others to harass Republicans, then it would still be incitement, and incitement to harass would be the best-case scenario. They were not simply talking about harassment, and I think an argument can be made that it was much more than harassment that they were inciting. Should there be criminal investigations into "Low IQ" Maxine and "Chuck-U" Schumer?
     
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    How horible of her :banana:

    'This has to stop': Harassed and threatened, GOP election officials urge party leaders to take stand

    Officials have said claims of rampant fraud pushed by the president and his allies are creating a dangerous environment for election workers.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/el...lection-officials-urge-party-leaders-n1249769


    CRICKETS FROM THE RIGHT
     
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    When you look at the context -the history of his comments- who he was and what happened it was far worse. Clearly.
     
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    Weird Diaper Donnie was tweeting about her calling for "violence" but I sure didn't find ANYTHING about him asking his DOJ to investigate her for it, care to point to it?
     
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    When someone has to resort to childish insults they might as well be waving a big "I have lost the debate" flag
     
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    Harassment is any unwanted behavior, physical or verbal (or even suggested), that makes a reasonable person feel uncomfortable, humiliated, or mentally distressed. Depending on state laws, the definition and boundaries for what's considered harassing behavior may slightly vary

    Didn't Diaper Donnie call for investigations with his DOJ at the time?

    ‘Where are all of the arrests?’: Trump demands Barr lock up his foes

    The day-long run of tweets and retweets marked the most frantic stretch of Trump’s public activity since he left Walter Reed.



    “...Where are all of the arrests?” Trump said, after several dozen tweets on the subject over the past 24 hours. “Can you imagine if the roles were reversed? Long term sentences would have started two years ago. Shameful!”

    By early afternoon, Trump was letting loose his frustrations in an all-caps missive that seemed aimed at nobody in particular.

    “DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, THE BIGGEST OF ALL POLITICAL SCANDALS (IN HISTORY)!!! BIDEN, OBAMA AND CROOKED HILLARY LED THIS TREASONOUS PLOT!!! BIDEN SHOULDN’T BE ALLOWED TO RUN - GOT CAUGHT!!!” Trump tweeted.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/07/trump-demands-barr-arrest-foes-427389
     
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    Diaper Donnie's ''base" would disagree
     
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    Thank you for proving our point...lol
     
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    Not-uh, not-uh.

    Only speech is violence. Mom said.
     
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    That's debatable but I will ask you this question..... Where are their consequences?
     
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    Incitement is a funny thing. I think it is a "The devil made me do it" cop out. Individuals are responsible for their individual actions regardless of where they got the ideas. But in order to prove incitement as a crime three things need to happen. A person makes a threat of violence in public address, a second person acts to carry out that violence, AND, that the second peson was influenced by the first person.

    It's mostly impossible to prove in court unless you rely on the testimony of a known criminal- the dude that carried it out must confess that he was influenced by the speech of the person on trial.
     
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    The surest sign that someone supports violence is when they set up a bail fund for people who are arrested for being violent, right Kamala?
     
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    And in addition to that you had several other prominent Democrats making announcements that were basically giving the rioters their blessings.


    I don't know why there's not more uprisings all over and maybe there will be.... Nasty Nancy
     
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    So you think that's acceptable behavior and you think it's acceptable for politicians to encourage that sort of thing?
     
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    You mean using free speech to shame people that seperated kids at the border, using Diaper Donnie's seperation policy? YES, F^CK YES!!
     
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    "Accused Capitol rioters have raised $3 million on crowdfunding sites—seek $10 million more"

    Even the treasonous ones of Jan 06 are protected by the 8th
     
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    “In 2016, I declared, ‘I am your voice,’” Trump said in a March speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference. “Today, I add: I am your warrior. I am your justice. And for those who have been wronged and betrayed, I am your retribution.

    Trump escalates attacks on judges amid increasing legal scrutiny



    Judges, like all government officials, have seen an increase in threatening communications in recent years.

    The number of threats against federal judges hit about 4,500 in 2021, following the Jan. 6 riot and claims the election was stolen. Those figures jumped again in 2022, to more than 5,000, according to the U.S. Marshals Service, which tracks both threats and inappropriate communications against federal judges.

    Kahn noted that Merchan and his family received death threats after Trump criticized him.

    https://www.aol.com/news/trump-escalates-attacks-judges-amid-235151814.html
     

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