Montana first to ban drag performers from reading to children in schools, libraries

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  1. trumptman

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    You’re the one claiming this. I’m the one calling it gaslighting.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Whatever gets you through the night. Have a nice day. You have nothing to say, I dont' see a point in continuing this.
     
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    Harm should be something that can be proven. Can you prove that a Drag Queen reading to kids is harmful? I cannot. Do you think bans should be based upon bias and prejudice? I do not. It frustrates me that the right preach freedom but fight to limit it to what they approve of. Again I see this as anti democratic.

    It just blows me away that so many want to make laws and bans in the name of mitigating harm without first proving that harm was being caused. I hope those that do so do not call them small government conservatives.
     
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    Most people don't want to continue the conversation when they're caught gaslighting and in a lie.
     
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    Your standard is not the standard for everyone else.

    That said I'm happy to use it when banning operations and hormones for minors because the "Do no harm" standard should absolutely be applied there and they have not proven a benefit with all those medical interventions. They are purely cosmetic. They are not for actual health concerns.

    So I'm happy to apply your standard for banning minors and their parents from seeking hormones or transition surgery nationwide.
     
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    Sure man. Same to you. Call me a liar when that's the best you got.
     
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    So what exactly do you find fascinating about drag queen shows? I'd really like to know.
     
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    Children are harmed by exposure to decadence
     
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    Sorry, free speech doesn't include grooming children.
     
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    Look the reality is that you were trying to play the hypocrite card claiming there would be massive growth in government and their overreach just to enforce this one law. This law is no different than jaywalking or your neighbor blasting their music all night. It's just one more law to enforce and there will not be some army of people hired to do anything related to it.

    You just double down and you know you're wrong which is why we are here at this stage. One new law. No new army of police, No new agencies of people from the government patrolling our lives seeking out drag or gay stuff.

    If someone tries to perform in drag at a library you call the police, they show up and enforce the law. No big deal.
     
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    Sorry, but its not just this one law, - there are dozens of such laws across the nation, and clearly you support the government role as a moral police, like all big daddy government folks do.
     
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    Reading a book isn't grooming. We already have laws against pedophilia. What you want to limit is free speech. Sorry.
     
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    Puritanism is not an excuse for outlawing free speech.
     
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    Sure it is
     
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    Thankfully, not in America. We take free speech seriously here. I'm sure that bullshit works in Russia. It doesn't fly here.
     
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    sure dont show children that book of violence, sexual devience and murder known as "the bible"
     
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    Don't be so sure.
     
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    Don't be so anti-1st Amendment
     
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    You won't be able to shield the grooming of children behind the first amendment.
     
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    Reading a book isn't grooming. We already have laws against pedophilia. You are pushing for an overthrow of the 1st Amendment.
     
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    Reading a book can be grooming.

    I am pushing to end the debauching of children.
     
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    And you support the role of government as the debaucher in chief.
     
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    You’ve not provided a single shred of evidence that a single additional person will be hired to enforce this law. There’s no Department of Homeland Drag. There’s no 87k additional IRS agents to make sure you don’t do drag.

    You can enjoy repeating your failed lie. It doesn’t make it any more true. You just are upset that Montana passed this law. You’re using a bullshit rationale to try to claim hypocrisy when the people in question used due process and passed the law normally and with support. It will be enforced with existing personnel. It is simply a new large to use to charge someone.
     
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    Another personal attack.

    'When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.'
     
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    What is the teacher hand them a Bible? Is it influencing the child and a coercive state action or is it just a book?
     

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