The women marrying themselves movement is growing. They even have a name for it: Sologamy. https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/28/us/sologamy-self-marriage-women-cec/index.html JAG Writes: The sexual revolution that started in the 60's has not yet hit bottom-Sodom. But it will. Just give it time. It'll get there. Conservatives who warned about the slippery slope in the 60's were mocked and vilified -- but they were proven correct about the slippery slope -- once you eliminate the traditional definition of marriage and redefine it, then you are on the slippery slope and there are no longer any principled reasons against: polyamory polygamy 3 males and 1 female getting married (group marriage is coming for certain) 2 females and 2 males bestiality (humans having sex with animals and humans marrying their dogs) No? Well google "Legality of bestiality in Europe" and read what you pull up. For example, "Yes, In Finland you Can Have Sex With your Pet." So? So they have to start somewhere. And legalizing sex with your pet is Step #1 leading to the legalization of legally marrying your dog. And adding bestiality to the list of protected sexual orientation identity groups ("born this way, we didn't choose it") And how long do you think it'll be before a significant size identity group demands the right to go totally nude anywhere anytime they want to do that? They've already taken step #1 -- merely google : "where can you go nude in America" Once a nation arrives at the immoral place America now is, there are no taboos allowed anymore. One by one, the taboos you once thought were UNTHINKABLE will become celebrated as good morality and moral progress. JAG [] Thoughts?
I personally thank the good Lord regularly that He has delivered me from the deadly iron grip of such as that up there and put my foot on the Solid Rock: "To the churches in Galatia: Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ, who gave himself for our sins to rescue us from the present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father, to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen." Galatians 1:3-5 JAG []
Marriage is a religious institution. I find it perplexing that the leftists demand to redefine marriage and get the redefinition sanctioned by government. I guess the separation of church and state isn't a leftist principle after all. Leftists only apply it when it's convenient.
Of course its a new invention. Secular humanism hasn't been around for but two centuries or so. The religions laid claim to marrage since the beginning. Get your government out of religion. It's not government's department.
I didn't say secular humanism. I said secular marriage. Please read. Get your religion out of government. No one is putting government into your religion when it comes to marriage.
Yeah, you are right Yardmeat. The government has been in the religious ceremony business for far to long. Get your government away from your god.
Another straw man. People being allowed to have secular marriages (which gave existed for many, many years) does not harm anyone's religious rights.
But the state sanctioning the redefinition of marrage does. Why does the state mock traditional marrage? Even secular marrage is traditionally between man and wife, not man and man or woman and woman and certainly not woman and self.
No. It doesn't. Your religion does not entitle you to force everyone else to follow your religion. Your church can do whatever they want with their marriages. It is fascism for them to force everyone else to follow the same rules. Learn.
Your government is appropriating the religious institution of marrage. Not unlike a whitey dressing up in blackface, your government has assumed the role of God. Presumably for the purpose of mocking religion.
How is it bashing? It's the same thing you guys said about humanism. And I can provide many, many examples. For example, is slavery absolutely wrong? How about killing children?
There's a long history of secular marriages. I'm sorry you are upset that you can't force others to comply with your religion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_marriage Meanwhile, which religion do you think should determine who can marry or who can't?
That's false. In it's origin marriage is a contract between three parties. One man, one woman, and one God.
What religion and what denomination should rule over who can be married and who can't and why should they have that authoritarian power?
If there is no objective morality then nothing is off limits. Meanwhile it is likely your experience provides evidence of objective wrongs.