Anti-vaxxers crumble as every prediction fails to come true

Off topic noise.

Off topic noise. All that typing and nobody cares.

 

When evidence is posted and in return fallacy is posted that’s a concession. If one wishes not to concede they must provide evidence of their own.

I routinely encourage PF members to show my evidence is in error. I encourage you and your compatriots to do so now. If you can’t, you have conceded by posting fallacy in place of that evidence.

 

No. Content that addresses YOUR posts directly.

You care. If you didn’t you would not respond with fallacy.

 

Off topic noise.

 

Thanks for continuing do demonstrate how much you care.

You picked the topics. I responded directly to your claims and further posts.

Sorry your claims and those of your compatriot are not supported by evidence.

 

Utter hogwash. That is deception to claim concessions when you have been presented with a copious amount of evidence!.

Just one post below from @MuchAdo showing that is a lie.

You haven't shown ANY evidence presented to you is in error! And, oh, thanks for your "magnanimous" encouragement

 

You’ve presented no evidence. You’ve quoted another dude who’s evidence conflicts with his own opinions.

A lie? The dude said I posted misinformation. He’s presented no evidence for that.

Of course I have. You guys posted this opinion piece.

I responded with actual verifiable evidence.

That dude posted unsubstantiated opinions about travel bans timelines and what the WHO was recommending. I provided official timelines from government sources as well as published WHO recommendations that conflict with his unsubstantiated opinions.

Then he posted this (in violation of PF rules).

I responded with evidence FROM HIS CITES that conflicts with his OPINIONS.

I’ve pointed out numerous claims made by your compatriot that are patently false. You are claiming I haven’t provided evidence he’s incorrect? SMH. I’ve provided citations and pull quotes from the citations (as PF rules require).

Go ahead. Provide evidence anything I’ve posted isn’t supported by valid evidence. Show me specifically what’s in error and provide data, studies, or government records as evidence.

We know you won’t. You can’t. The evidence to refute mine doesn’t exist. That’s why you and your compatriot are posting pure fallacy in response to my EVIDENCE. You will continue to post pure fallacy because the EVIDENCE I’ve provided is irrefutable.

 

Off topic noise. Nothing new, just repetition.

You're responding to me saying "off topic noise" with repetition of off topic noise.

 

I’ve also posted this in reply to your compatriot’s false claims and premises.

Note all the peer reviewed studies and other data including direct quotes of Fauci himself on record. That’s evidence. It refuted the unsubstantiated and incorrect opinions you and your compatriot offered.

 

It’s all YOUR topic.

Try posting some evidence to back your erroneous claims and the erroneous claims of your compatriot. Can’t support your arguments with evidence? I’m shocked!

LOL.

 

Unbelievable, you just keep repeating the same off topic news! Aren't the replies getting through. You've made your point, nobody cares enough about your rebuttal to rebuttal to rebuttal. It's off topic!

Have you got "last-worditis?

 

Thanks for showing you still care.

Have you got “last-worditis”? You are the guy who said pages back this was a waste of your time. It’s not a waste of my time. I find value in exposing the bankruptcy of science denialist posts like I’ve been responding to from you and your compatriot.

You picked every topic we’ve discussed.

 

Time to start ignoring the noise and put this tread back on topic:

Any takers?

 

Sure. Folks just respond to what they see you post.
The video in the OP has a nutter predicting 50 million deaths from vaccines. She’s entitled to her opinion, although there is no evidence to support it.

That’s how it works. Nutty folks can say all kinds of things, but without supporting evidence it’s just unsubstantiated opinions. That standard applies to all claims.

We should all substantiate what we ascribe to with evidence—the nut in the OP video is no exception. If she seriously attempted to substantiate her claims, she would have to re-evaluate her opinions and biases based on the evidence she uncovered.

There’s a valuable lesson in the OP. I wish preconceived bias didn’t prevent so many from seeing the lesson instead of just a nut spouting unsubstantiated opinions.

 

More misinformation on this thread — I’m not a ‘dude’ which is clearly indicated on every single one of my posts.

 

Sincere apologies. My mistake, it was not intentional.

 

The fake news that vaccines caused seventeen million deaths is ridiculous considering the overwhelming lack of evidence that vaccines are harmful and the overwhelming evidence that they are safe.

The crap about the 17 million deaths came from an analysis from Rancourt et al. They claimed that spikes in excess mortality in the post-vaccination period correlated to vaccine rollout. Unfortunately, they didn’t account for deaths being caused by covid-19 or any other cause of death.

Rancourt is obviously biased related to anything to do with vaccines. He is a member of Pandata. This group has actively promoted covid-19 denialism and vaccine misinformation. Rancourt has stated “there was no pandemic”. With that kind of ridiculous statement, anything else he claims is suspect.

Did Rancourt et al even establish whether people who died had been vaccinated? Nope. The analysis is worthless. How can you possibly draw any kind of association between vaccination and death when you actually haven’t considered who was vaccinated when they died.

Did the analysis consider that covid-19 was a possible explanation for spikes in excess mortality? Nope. The spikes in excess mortality matched surges in covid-19 deaths.

Was mortality higher in countries with greater vaccine coverage compared to the countries with lower vaccine coverage? Nope.

Did a study demonstrate that excess all-cause mortality was greater in the ten least-vaccinated states? Indeed. Bilinski et al. (2023) COVID-19 and Excess All-Cause Mortality in the US and 20 Comparison Countries, June 2021-March 2022. JAMA Network.

Did a study find that all-cause mortality was 37% lower in the vaccinated group? Tu et al. (2023) SARS-CoV-2 Infection, Hospitalization, and Death in Vaccinated and Infected Individuals by Age Groups in Indiana, 2021‒2022. American Journal of Public Health.

So, there is actually no evidence that 17 million excess deaths were caused by the vaccines unless you consider a flawed analysis to be irrefutable evidence.

 

they have records of who was vaxd

 

Who is "they"?

 

Every country that vaxd people recorded a vaccination. How hard is that to understand?

 

Well duhhh. What is your point!?


Answer the rest of it!

 

I already answered, I'd be happy to link it but then somebody would piss and moan that I'm spamming.

 

Rubbish! It's from a few posts above and you completely evaded it!

 

They didn’t present any such data in their analysis so obviously not true.

 

Well then why don't you post the data set that they used and let's check it out.