IS the term "The People" in the second amendment different

If it could be demonstrated that more armed citizens reduces the threat of firearms on the public (say, by making gun criminals more afraid of getting shot by armed law abiding citizens defending themselves...), would you (and would Dems) then oppose attempts to reduce or limit citizen firearms ownership?

 

I disagree-if that was the case, then the Hughes Amendment wouldn't have been snuck into the FAOPA of 1986

 

we both know the answer to that-democrats would move to limit honest people being armed because crime control is only a facade

 

can you actually find any language in any part of the constitution or the bill of rights that allows the federal government to tell private citizens-militia eligible or not-that they cannot own or keep certain arms?

 

1986??????????
40 years ago?

 

The National Guard is part of the US military structure
The President may activate the guard
THEREFORE the President may place requirements on the Guard as to training weapons.

Article 8, Sec 3. ONCE AGAIN.

 

what part of PRIVATE CITIZEN is so hard to understand

Yes the President can dictate what weapons those in active DUTY USE

but not what PRIVATE CITIZENS CAN OWN

here, I reposted the comment you replied to to show you what I ACTUALLY SAID

 

Let me guess, you don't know what the Hughes Amendment actually is

 

Do all 50 states have firearms manufacturing facilities? No
I suggest you look up
Wickard v. Filburn

 

Let ME guess...
You're under the profoundly incorrect assumption that you understand any on this.

 

yes, one of the most criticized and panned decisions in the history of USSC jurisprudence. But if you are going to pretend that the commerce clause was intended to allow federal gun control in a court that was a lapdog for FDR, then you have to accept the fact that Heller has trumped the crap that flowed from Wickard.

BTW i am still trying to see if you can explain what is actually stated in either the constitution or the bill of rights that empowered the federal government to regulate the arms of private citizens. Especially if the arms were made in the state in which the private citizen resides

 

Well I think that the readers have a pretty good idea who actually understands this topic. I dont' see many readers backing up your position nor ""liking" them. But tell me-what was the purpose of the Hughes Amendment given there had been less than two murders with legally owned automatic weapons in the 40 years prior to that amendment

 

Yet it stands you're on an internet chat board pretending you're an expert.
Such is life

 

Awwwwww...

He thinks "likes" apply to him and he's therefore popular.
That is sooooo cute.

 

I am an expert? you have not been able to refute anything I have actually said

 

I assume a lack of a response is a tacit acknowledgement of something to that effect...

 

Actually, everything.
But as long as you're in denial, you can be right about everything.

 

I just dont see anyone else backing your claims up. I asked you what language in the US Constitution or the Bill of rights actually delegates any power to the federal government to limit the arms PRIVATE citizens can keep and bear, own or use-you failed to answer that

You don't seem to understand the Hughes Amendment argument-it proves that crime control is not what motivates the democrats when it comes to gun control.

 

Would someone please step up and give this guy some reassurances.
Apparently his measure of true or false is "Likes."

C'mon, help him out!



AND

Whatever you might like to think it proves the simple fact is that the Hughes Amendment is IRRELEVANT TO THE DISCUSSION.

 

no it isn't. it proves that the goal of many democrats is banning guns not reducing crime. There had not been a single case of a privately owned, legal machine gun, being used for a murder in over forty years before the Hughes Amendment was surreptitiously introduced into the McClure-Volker Firearms Owner Protection act by scumbag Bill Hughes, in a spiteful attempt to piss back at the pro gun groups that were getting that bill passed

 

Was your law techer paid by the NRA?

 

Carrying arms to control crimes? Which amendment I have to know?

 

Whether or not you get likes says something about Democrats?


And it seems you're so far off topic you're going to need to radio in for landing clearance.

 

I don't see anything remotely responsive to my post.

 

what's a techer? You should understand that comments such as yours continue to prove my point-anti gun advocates hate the NRA far more than armed criminals