Report; Zionist rape cult exposed

Do you have any evidence to back your desired view of the Jews being hated by everybody and everyone? Why is it so terribly important for you to believe that Jews must be hated even when they are not? What gain does the hatred of Jews provide to you?

 

Anyone can collect a bunch of incidents performed by any individual in any certain group, but such doesn't necessarily mean that the entire group is supportive of such behavior. It is certainly fair to argue that the frequent practice of certain activities within a group demonstrates concern regarding a relevant problem. In this case, I'd say that the illegal settlement problem tends to promote illegal practices, as demonstrated with the common practice of various illegalities.

So, I think that your argument is fair in terms of it expressing concern about certain problems within a group, but your argument does not show that all ultra-orthodox Zionists are supportive of such problems. If anything, more ultra-othodox Zionists need to become more concerned with the direction they are taking Israel.

 

Your "suggestion" is only that. Proof would be helpful; but non is forthcoming. But since we are setting the standard so low, I am now going to assume that islam furthers murder and that, as a general standard, muslims are rapists, stoners and I'll just accept ObamaYoMama and other's examples as being applicable to all muslims. There are plenty of examples on the site that "suggest" that too. That is the standard nowadays I understand.

 

Hang on, are you requiring evidence that zionists are supportive of rape but not disputing that they support illegal practises in other circumstances? I fail to see how you make an assumption without evidence on one matter but call Moon out for doing the same on another. Now is there evidence that zionism equates to rape or not? What crimes can be proven to exist particularly in zionism? Any facts whatsoever on this - even one study or only isolated examples? Or is it for me to rebut Moon's and now your "suggestions"?

 

This is truly pathetic and can only be construed as a white flag.

I reaffirm my opinion that the incidences of degenerate behavior of Zionist ultra-orthodox groups in Israel indicate that the essentially criminal nature of Zionism promotes degeneracy amongst its followers. Power corrupts.

 

Zionism is raping Palestine and its people, violating human rights on a daily basis. As such, why should Zionists oppose the rape which so many seem to love and support?

Zionists often do not support raping Zionists. Yet, the rape of the Palestinian people appears to be a heavily defended and prided practice. It is likely this double-standard which encourages some Zionists to get confused and to rape "the other Semites".

Just type in the word "Palestine" and one will get flooded with the common Zionist love for the rape of another group of people. If one can rape one group of Semites, why not rape another too? I think that crime knows no borders. At first, crime may seem good when limited against "them".

 

What is pathetic is your continual presumption that the group in question here the Breslov sect, is a zionist group when it isn't.

 

What a totally daft statement. Breslov is in the bloody Ukraine. Tell them to eff off back there.

 

I think that Tyrerik is right and you are wrong. Breslov appears to not be associated with political Zionists. Personally, I didn't know anything about Breslov until now.

In my opinion it depends on what you mean by Zionism. If you were simply referring to “Zionism” as the love of Eretz Yisrael and our belief that it was given to the Jewish people eternally and that eventually we will return to it, then there is no doubt that every Breslover is a Zionist. There was no bigger lover of the Land of Israel than Rebbe Nachman. His books are filled with praise for Eretz Yisrael and of advice in regards to gaining its kidusha/holiness. It is know that Rebbe Nachman himself overtook an extremely dangerous journey, whose original purpose was only to walk a few steps in the Land and then return to his Chassidim. Rebbe Nachman told his Chassidim that anyone who wants to be a real Jew, must visit the Land.

Now if you are referring to the modern political Zionist movement founded by Theodore Herzl amongst others, simply put, Breslov is not a political movement. Firstly, the Rebbe passed away on Sukkot 1810, the Zionist Movement was not founded until the end of the 19th century, so the Rebbe definitely did not say anything about it. The mesorah-traditions we have in Breslov rarely contains political views. We believe that the Rebbe being the Tzaddik Emes/True Tzaadik is constantly doing whatever is in his power to bring every Jew closer to God and the truth. This goal and process stands head and tails above all political beliefs and groups.
http://breslov.org/ask-a-breslover-4/


As such, I'd say that your argument against Zionism in this thread is probably incorrect.

 

Yes and no. From what I have read so far, it appears to be religiously Zionist but not politically Zionist. This could place it into the anti-Zionist group, which would define the thread as being based on false reasoning.

 

your claims of ethnic cleansing are bollocks pure and simple. Your outlandish claims fool no one. As for you pencils I could care less where you shove them

 

Link please. Honoring crimes against humanity does not prove that such did not happen. It is logic such as this which promotes rape and creates the probem Moon seems to wish to highlight.

 

No its up to you to prove the crimes occurred and as neither of you have ever proved it i'm sure it shows that leftist islamic terrorist fascists are all potential rapists.

 

Israel has denied locals and refugees the right to return home, has discriminatory land laws, has practiced expulsions, denies equal citizenship in claimed territory, reduces living conditions to encourage and pressure departure, expands illegal settlements to slowly expel undesired citizens, etc.

All of such is ethnic cleansing and crimes against humanity and not condemning such means that one desires for Zionism to be racist and criminal. So, why do you appear to demand for Zionism to be heavily racist and criminal? What is it about a racist and criminal Zionism that you admire so dearly?

Link please. Unproven claims do not justify crime.

 

Only people denying right of return are theJordanians and egyptians . If they accept their people back the problem would be solved

 

Moon has stated many times that zionism is political not religious therefore he means political zionism when he uses the term zionist/zionism. Whether the group is or isn't the basis of the reasoning is faulty since Moon has failed to provide the evidence for his assertion. This should come as no surprise from someone who has been shown to be a swindler changing the authors of quotes from the Brussels Journal.

 

What is loony is that notion but since you're in favour of that action you'd better get back in orbit!

Btw:

A partial listing of some well-known Orthodox Jewish anti-Zionist groups:

Bene Yoel
Breslov
Brisk
Hazon Ish
...

source

 

You'd better get up to date. Israeli-based ultra-orthodox groups are adopting the Zionist doctrine because it offers jewish-exclusivity . Furthermore, any European ultra-Zionist incomer is a bloody Zionist whether they admit to it or not. Indigenous jews have a right to be in Palestine.

 

Up to date, sure Moon things change so fast in those circles! Anyway I agree there has been some movement in that direction since the prospect of the founding of Israel became a realistic possibility and that's why I wrote the traditional line in ultra-orthodox doctrine was antizionist and why there is so much fragmentation which I also wrote about.

So let me see are you calling an Israeli of the Broslev sect whose grandfather fled Stalin purges and Nazi persecution to the relative safety of Palestine and still holds the traditional antizionist line, a "European incomer" who is a bloody zionist despite demonstrating against zionism incurring hatred and threats from fellow citizens? It sounds like your version of a zionist is more akin to the Nazis definition of a Jew than a political affiliation. That also fits the growing impression you are giving of merely using zionism as a cloak for antisemitism.

 

Utter rubbish . Why fly a flag if its not to indicate ones location. or national identity ?
If you consider "none of our opinions count " - then why the feck bother in responding to any ?

The only thing I note as being , " childish , - kindisch/ kindlich " - is yr pathetic copout to dismiss yr localtion + flag as "irrelevant".

I repeat - to the best of my knowledge - no Englishman or woman would hide under a German flag nore use a Germam moniker.


Auf wiedersehen - pet .

 

Based on the daft connections you've made in this thread, you'd better take a course in elementary Logic...

 

Plain personal attack with no factual guts.

 

Ah, the Nazi hidey-hole. Why should you be any different from the other failed fanboys of Zionism around here. Again, Zionism is a doctrine of ethnic cleansing. The concept of jewish exclusivity is also a doctrine of ethnic cleansing, Zionism in different snakeskin. You can't get a cigarette paper between the two. Anybody supporting jewish exclusivity in Israel is a racist and there isn't spit between racism and Zionism. Those seeking ' relative safety ' in Palestine did so at the expense of the indigenous Palestinian population- and still do- and they are Zionists , by their actions, despite your poorly-laid smokescreen of intra-jewish conflict. The rape club, featured, is correctly named.

 

Link please. Palestinians in Palestine were not Egyptians or Jordanians in 1948. False claims concerning identity thus do not validate crimes against humanity.

 

Your daft connections have no factual guts, moon. The sheer absence of elementary Logic is there for all to see and laugh at...