http://www.lifenews.com/2011/09/13/woman-who-killed-infant-freed-by-canadas-pro-abortion-law/ Killing a born baby, killing a fetus, yeah its basically the same thing. This court obviously says so, and it is easy to see how slippery a slope is for a society given this factual report! "But part of the ruling that also has pro-life advocates troubled is Judge Veit’s decision that Canada’s acceptance of legalized abortion entitled Effert to kill her child. Judge Veit ruled, according to multiple media reports,"
You may be interested in this then; http://www.politicalforum.com/abortion/208092-fetus-human-being-so-what.html
Where and when? No you just had another cry and retreated from the argument made. Dont worry I'll state it here - what does it matter if the fetus is a 'human being'? Its still ok to kill it.
Look junior. You directed me to another thread to address a question you had. Go to the other thread and you will see that I addressed it. Why is it still OK to kill it when it is not OK to kill other human beings just because you want to?
ROFL You are losing that badly you resort to the most childish of ad hominem! haha signs of the white flag are at hand... Alrighty... wtf? Are you asking me a question or coming to a conclusion already? No I have given you my principle 8 times (that I can remember). Why cant you still figure it out? Something that has the conscious ability to have an interest in its own existence garners recognition of such interests. A fetus has no interests therefore no rights.
You have never explained why anyone else should beleive this is the way to go. What makes these characteristics the deciding factors? Several have posted holes in this rationale that you simply ignored.
You mean I have never elaborated on the detail of why this position is correct? Well actually I have, several times, but you can read a collective summary here: http://www.politicalforum.com/abortion/208092-fetus-human-being-so-what.html
Explain how it doesn't make sense, or ask a question if you need elaboration on some aspect of the principle.
A fair argument can be made by the pro abortion crowd, that infanticide post womb is no different than murder in the womb. The BS argument of viability falls on it's face. A baby is incapable of surviving without extraordinary intervention, and for that matter, up to the age of three or four it should be legal to kill your child, because the chances of them surviving truly on their own are pretty much zero. If we are going to argue the case for state sanctioned murder, by all means we must approach the discussion logically.
You are absolutely correct!!!! The pro abortion crowd in general refuses to be this honest about the topic!
I'm still waiting. You have a burden of proof when you say my case doesn't make sense. Show me where it isnt logical. If you mean, you dont get it, then ask me for elaboration where you need it.
Actually I have done exactly what he just said, LOL and you have yet to respond to my position with any serious rebuttal.
So, you consider yourself the pro abortion crowd in general? A little over the top arrogant don't you think?
Not at all. Funny how you just made a representation of the pro abortion crowd in general, then have a go at me for the possiblity I might have done the same. LOL You;re not only incapable of beating me, you;re also a hypocrite. haha If that were true, yes.