Sheriff: Time For Citizens To Arm Themselves

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  1. Robodoon

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    SPARTANBURG COUNTY, S.C. -- The Spartanburg County Sheriff is known for speaking his mind, and at a news conference on Monday, he didn't hold back his anger and frustration after a woman was attacked in a park over the weekend.

    Investigators said 46-year-old Walter Lance grabbed a woman who was walking her dog in Milliken Park on Sunday afternoon. They said Lance choked the woman, made her take off her clothing and tried to rape her.

    Lance is in custody and was denied bond on Monday.

    Sheriff Chuck Wright opened his news conference by saying, "Our form of justice is not making it."

    He said, "Carry a concealed weapon. That'll fix it."

    Read more: http://www.wyff4.com/news/29638219/detail.html#ixzz1cOhBT4IJ



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    Comment: Remember people who don't want you to be armed see you as an enemy, that should say a lot about people in our government and their feelings about the american people.


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    "I don't care about crime, I just want to get the guns." - Sen. Howard Metzenbaum, 1994
     
  2. maat

    maat Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I carry everday. I pray I never have to use it, but I am not going to depend on the police(they do a good job, but cannot be everywhere) or trust the government.
     
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    My Fing ID Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's a point people don't seem to get. The police cannot protect you. When I was mugged, where were the cops? When my barracks room was broken into, where were the cops (funny story they almost arrested my room mate and I for false report). The only time I can think of the cops bailing me out was an incident where some gang member sold us false drugs and, after getting devastated in a one on one fight, got 7 of his buddies to chase us down the street. It was blind luck that the cop happened to be rolling by at the time.

    People need to understand that the police are a reactive force and are only a deterrent force when directly present. Most people know that if they need to call 911 it's going to be a few minutes until the cops show. Even then who's to say. Hanging out at the park my friends and I saw a fight. The cops showed up 15 minutes later; well after the fighting parties had left the park. You are responsible for your own safety.
     
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    I agree, I have to be more like you. ;)
     
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    Ditto...:bump:
     
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    Thats right, cops will not protect you, they can't. And via DC they are commanded not to.

    Nothing can be done until the crime has been committed. And then they are told to take a report on it. A Report on it.

    Your dead, your family is dead, some one has been rapped...then they can take a report on the "CRIME"

    Sounds out of bounds for me, in the land of "We the people"
     
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    Mexican narco-war spilling over this side of the border...
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    Texas sheriff: Drug war violence spilling over
    Monday, October 31, 2011 — A shooting that injured a sheriff's deputy was the first indisputable case of spillover violence from the Mexican drug wars in Hidalgo County, the local sheriff said Monday.
     
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    Right, carry a weapon and be it her luck the perp would have disarmed her, possibly shot and killed her and there'd be another unregistered gun floating around in public.

    Having a licensed gun is ok as long as you aren't caught off guard or over powered by someone bigger or quicker then you are.
     
  9. Emagatem

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    Actually Robo, most people don't see their political opponents as enemies. Most people are level-headed and moderate and treat debates as conversations, not battles.
     
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    A licensed gun??? What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand? :roll:

    It's been pretty well established that guns are successfully used in self-defense every day in this country. You think she would buck that trend based on what? Her luck? What would you know about her luck?
     
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    People have a better chance of stopping a robber/rapist/kidnapper/abuser by wearing a fully electrical suit of armor than by wearing a concealed, safetied weapon. Its a false sense of security. The only way it steers someone clear is if you wear in on a holster around your belt for all to see.

    Gun nuts, please give me statistics in the major "gun lovers" states where more crimes were prevented by gun carriers than actually committed successfully upon those that didn't have them.
     
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    Yep, I may be pretty liberal in many things, But guns are not one of them. I feel we should not restrict the owning of guns except in cases of the mentally ill and those that by law do not qualify for carrying guns (IE: Criminals).

    The logic is clear. If you try to take away guns, Law abiding citizens MAY hand them over. Criminals will likely not.

    Thank you for your time.
     
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    Oh please stop with the dramatics already.

    If you use common sense and read my post again, I said "legally registered" guns. You are dealing with assumptions; I'm dealing with common sense.

    Can you provide a link to your impirical evidence?
     
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    People who support gun control support criminals and rows of dead bodies.
    http://www.pulpless.com/gunclock/noframedex.html
    They believe that the people who used a gun to defend themselves would be better off 6 feet underground.
    The whole lot of them make me sick and I'm glad that they have been defeated.
     
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    Gun nuts, eh? Name-calling is so much easier than actual discussion and debate...

    You are right about one thing, though. Merely carrying a concealed weapon does not stop someone who wants harm you. It takes training, situational awareness, and a willingness to do what it takes to defend yourself.

    Not all handguns have (or need) safeties, btw. Mine certainly does not.

    Anyway, here are your statistics. Enjoy.

    http://www.law.uchicago.edu/files/files/41.lott_.final_.pdf
     
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    Maat , I've carried a gun everyday for the past 20 years ... sometimes a .22 derringer , sometimes an Imez .380 , but lately a .40 Glock.

    Been more than a few times I've been mighty glad that I was packing ... :gun:

    But , I'm a hillbilly , ya know ? I don't dial 911 ... I just sort of take care of things myself ... :)
     
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    Looks like "licensed" to me... anyway what's the difference? The law clearly states "the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". Licensing and registration are infringements.

    Se my post above for your evidence.
     
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    Here's the problem with those statistics. It takes into account what "might" have happened had guns been taken away after being in circulation. I think most gun-averse people wish they had never been put into circulation in the first place. Had the US government shut down gun factories, gun stores and any access to large scale manufactured arms 50 years ago, how many guns, illegal or otherwise, would be on the streets today, and how many of the 30,000+ gun murders ANNUALLY would have been prevented the last 50 years? What if every single gun found in public was destroyed and no new guns were legally put into circulation? Sure, for 5-10 years, you'd still have criminals out there with existing guns, but I'd like to know that my children and grandchildren have a chance to live in a community where there is maybe 1, 2 guns hidden in someones closet total in a town of 10,000. There is NO doubt that our nation would reduce violent crime exponentially, especially the further down the road from prohibition you get. The first years would be the toughest, but over time our nation COULD be safer.

    I always find it funny that as a nation, we rose up in full vengeance mode and spent a few hundred billion in order to go after the friends of 12 arab terrorists that murdered 3000 Americans 10 years ago, and yet we ignore a genocide of 30,000 plus every year BY Americans on our own soil, WHILE guns are legal and clearly not solving that problem.
     
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    The Genocide is the 900k+ Abortions in the United States annually:winner:
     
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    I've never had to use a gun for actual defense ... I have had to use a blade as a motivator in 2 occasions ... handgun was out of sight.

    but even my neighbors know to look for me when help is needed - and in 2 occasions my presence was appreciated.

    ... but here in NC gun laws are a little more user friendly than many places (especially up in the N.E.)
     
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    :ignore: oh , come off of it BTeam ,,, that's a crock of BS ... your post is laughable ,,, as well as being utterly without any merit whatsoever ..

    that .22 mag derringer in my pocket is worth 10 .44 magnums in my glove-box,, it' s there if I need it.:gun:

    and , in closing , you believe what U want ,,, but I've heard that BS before from anti-gun Liberals :puke:

    I believe I have made my opinion known .. :gun:
     
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    If I saw truckloads of Iranians with AKMs & explosives heading through my subdivision to Takeout the Nearby Giant Electrical Power Grid Transmission Towers and I called the Shasta County Sherriffs about it it would thake them an hour to respond .
     
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    Shasta County? that fast?

    Hope you and your neighbors have at least a few old Enfield 303's
     
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    Irrefutable.

    And, here's one of the bottom lines for the anti-gun buttholes: You may not have a gun.....but the criminal will.
     
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    Basic ,, I live way out in the country in the mountains of Western North Carolina , close to the Tenn. line ,, and we've had NC State Troopers killed within a few miles of where I live .. by a bunch of no-goods , low down crimminals ,, so ,, I'd have helped the Law if I could ,, these Troopers are fine men , I stand on the side of the LAW ...

    but , the Law can't always be expected to be there when you need them ,,

    they may be drinking coffee and having a doughnut ,, but they come when called , but 10 minutes can sometimes be the difference between Life and Death ,,, and that's why I carry a firearm ... and I don't carry it for show and tell ... :gun: :sun:
     

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