leftist,rightist,centralist?

Wow, you idiots are hilarious. Not only do you not know political theory -- you don't know history. Communists and socialists were gassed in ww2 concentration camps. Why? Because socialists are egalitarians. Get a clue and read a history book. So stupid haaha.

 

Hay, I posted the dictionary definitions of Nazi (National Socialist German Workers' party) and Socialism which states it is a LEFT wing philosophy right along with Communism.

I'LL post another dictionary definition (accepted reality) you won’t like. I know reality irritates some.

fas•cism   /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ Show Spelled[fash-iz-uhm]
noun 1.(sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
2.(sometimes initial capital letter) the philosophy, principles, or methods of fascism.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fascism​

Fascism, Socialism, Communism, yes even Nazism are Leftist, Statist philosophies because they seek to destroy the individual.

stat•ism   /ˈsteɪtɪzəm/ Show Spelled[stey-tiz-uhm]
noun 1.the principle or policy of concentrating extensive economic, political, and related controls in the state at the cost of individual liberty.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/statism​

They all are contrary to the US Constitution which seeks to safeguard and guarantee Individual Liberty.

Don’t be stupid! ROTFLMAO!!! I gave you the dictionary definitions proving you and them wrong! It is they who think, propagandize, and profess that “…Nazism has always been considered as extreme right…” that are the “revisionists.”

 

You are still arguing degrees of LEFTIST political philosophies. They are all STATIST, and seek to destroy Indicial Liberty. Go learn history and learn the truth.

 

I am anti-statist, and here I am the most libertarian of everyone in this forum or one of the most libertarian, and I am leftist.. And not. The fascism is truely statist, and is rights.

Nazism is just other form to give power to the corporations.

When there are crisis, the fascist movements are born. And today USA has a fascist movement...

 

So, you're pretty much a groupie, huh?

 

The forum has a far right majority.

This is somewhat balanced by some of the far left international posters though.

In an American sense, I'm probably far left (on most things).

Among First World nations overall, I would probably be center left or center right, depending on the country.

 

You are so wrong. Marx advocated a classless society. All anarchist are also socialists by definition, as they represent a voluntary society without coercion or class. Socialism itself is anti-statist, but was corrupted in the 20th century by despots. All political philosophies that advocate egalitarianism are leftist -- Marx represented egalitarianism as did anarchists. Egalitarianism is leftism, democracy itself is a form of leftism.

Right wing politics are based in tradition, obedience and hierarchy. Every fascist, such as Mussolini, Franco and Hitler was right wing. Corporations themselves are mini fascist dictatorships that exactly specify dress and demeanor and forbid free thought if it detracts from the ultimate goal of profit. Conservatives are right wing because they use populism based on a sense of tradition and duty to dictate actions. They will advocate their stance through a state or through a market-based pseudo-state that still dictates actions and controls the economy. Nazism, despite the use of the term "socialist" was a right wing traditionalist, romantic, nationalist movement. If corporate monopolies become the state, it is still statism, and not a free market.

And also, indicial isn't a word.

 

Ripping off cover art from talentless bands, to express how punk rawK you are?

Lol, too funny.

 

You are talking about European politics which is why we fought a revolution against the King of England. "Fascist, such as Mussolini, Franco and Hitler... (may be) right wing" but only under the European political spectrum. They are all FAR LEFT WING (as are ALL STATIST political philosophies) to the American political philosophy of Individual Liberty enshrined in the Constitution.

 

Ok.

Then if statist political philosophies are far left wing. Where do I fit if I am anti-statist? I am rightist?

 

I am pretty much in the middle of most issues. Lean left some, and right some.

PF is mostly center-right, not due to education but due to differences in morals, goals, ambitions, and economic views. I really wish people could respect each others view without going all bat(*)(*)(*)(*) crazy but we all know that isn't going to happen.

There are the crazy left that ignore all logic, and there are the crazy right which also ignore all logic. And then there are the trolls!!!

Please, Do not feed the trolls!
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Yep, sort of, but not quite.

an•ar•chy   /ˈænərki/ Show Spelled[an-er-kee]
1.a state of society without government or law.
2.political and social disorder due to the absence of governmental control: The death of the king was followed by a year of anarchy. 3.a theory that regards the absence of all direct or coercive government as a political ideal and that proposes the cooperative and voluntary association of individuals and groups as the principal mode of organized society.
4.confusion; chaos; disorder: Intellectual and moral anarchy followed his loss of faith.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/anarchy?o=100084&qsrc=2871&l=dir​

Anarchy is to the Right of Constitutional Individual Liberty. I don’t think it is a legitimate political philosophy at all because by definition it is, "a state of society without government or law." Without law Individual Rights can't be safeguarded. How can the lack of a political philosophy indeed be a political philosophy?

 

I would not use dictionary definitions for complex terms. And anarchy is one of them. You need to use enciclopedic sources.

For example:
[joke] http://conservapedia.com/Anarchism [/joke] Well is not so biased the definitions, even are acceptable.

 

I'm glad you took over the job of expalining/teaching these libs just what leftist politics/ideologies we abhor. Some will continue to call any and all of those European leftist ideals as being right wing--no matter how many dictionary definitions you bury them with. Conservatism holds its own and everyone knows exactly what it stands for, i.e. capitalism; any other ideology or ism is most likely going to veer to the left or to the far left with nazism, communism, statism, collectivism, pacifism, marxism, fascism, lesbianism, unionism, islamacism, shariahism, leftism, transcendentalism, orwellianism, atheism, anti Americanism and satanism.

 

I find it funny that you mention transcendentalism. Some of this nation's greatest transcendentalists were actually Republicans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Waldo_Emerson

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_David_Thoreau

Yes, they didn't support the same principles of the modern Republican Party, but were supporters nonetheless.

 

Oh really, and why not? The first sentence of you BETTER explanation is below.

"Anarchism is a political philosophy advocating the removal of the State and the establishment of a society without government."​

Sounds a lot like my dictionary definition below.

"a state of society without government or law."​

What is the difference?

 

You forgot to mention antidisestablishmentarianism.

 

From what I've seen I'd guess it's somewhere in the center.

 

The majority here are very right. I consider myself pretty centrist.