Soccer (wussies) vs Rugby (hard cases)

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  1. kronikcope

    kronikcope Active Member

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    LOL! Says the person who enjoys watching the most boring sport on the planet.

    Please explain how boxing is a sport and MMA is not.

    Barbaric...lol...grow a set.
     
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    You should go to a football game in England and announce to the fans that they are all a bunch of fairys. You'll probably get beat to an inch of death by a group of said "fairys". Football has by far the most violent and rowdy fans of any western sport.

    I'll take football over American football any day of the week. I'd rather watch a game where the action rarely stops, then a game that has an average of about 13 minutes of actual playtime, even though youll be sitting there watching for 3 hours.

    American football is (*)(*)(*)(*)ing lame.

    I dont know much about rugby, other than what Matt Damon taught me.
     
  3. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Soccer is for boys who don't have the muscles for ballet, and, yes, they will attack you if you go amongst them, squeaking with rage. Sometimes, I suppose, they put on armour and play American football - a game, so I understand, that is responsible for the destruction of right-wing American brains.
     
  4. wyly

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    obviously you don't realize many of those blown knees in soccer are deliberate attempts by opponents to cause that injury...


    no it was from being kicked repeatedly the resulting hemorrhaging that turned my foot purple and black...



    well obviuosly you're no sports expert are you, american football started as a rugby based game a continuous movement game, it devolved into the snooze fest it is today...

    a common tactic in every single team sport played...


    your macho attitude is immature....

    save it bro I've heard this kind of ignorance before... you kicked a ball around when you were a kid thinking you played soccer but you no have concept of what it takes to play at a high level or any tactical knowledge of the game...

    as I said you've never played the game with men...:laughing:
     
  5. kronikcope

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    Breaking News: Soccer officially comes out of the closet.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xLn-X8YJRg&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]Soccer Officially Announces It Is Gay - YouTube[/ame]
     
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  6. wyly

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    nope, that's just what I recall without too much effort from the teams I played with...I'm sure the teams I played against had similar injury histories...

    I knew a couple Division I college soccer players back in the 80's, and don't recall them looking like they just went 15 rounds with Mike Tyson...you wouldn't notice it unless you're with the same group of players game after game season after season...

    goalkeeper took a ball to the abdomen, freakish but it happened, and he was gymnast as well sohe had very well developed abs ...being hit by the ball feels like being hit by Mike Tyson, I've seen more than a few players having their noses broken by the ball or even knocked cold, there's good reason you see pro's cringe on free kicks when they form a wall in front of their goals on freekicks...
     
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    soccer by regular lads its probably more rough and tumble as there are no rules and anything goes so they probably kick each other alot but on the professional field it is too submissive for the referees will pull the card out
     
  8. wyly

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    an english teammate told me this..."football(soccer) is a gentleman's game played by ruffians, rugby is a ruffians game played by gentlemen" ...I know rugby can get really ugly but I was always impressed by respect rugby players gave each other, soccer players generally aren't very respectful, scheming to "do" someone (break a leg, ankle or knee) was always present...
     
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    there's some truth to that, amateurs get suspended at most for violent behaviour...pro's generally have a higher level of respect for each other and a suspension can draw a considerable fine as well, a serious injury could end their careers so most do not deliberately try to main each other but there are those who still have no qualms in destroying a knee or ankle...
     
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    You are absolutely right. I am sure it has it's fair share of nasty incidents.

    Not a sport? That's the dumbest thing I have ever all day. I'd day it's more of a sport than most.

    Beautiful and complex? I rest our case.

    Right soooooooo much fun. Even fanatic soccer fans admit it is a snooze fest. 90 (*)(*)(*)(*)ing minutes and sometimes neither team scores!! From your ignorance I am going to assume you have never played American football.

    Those incidents are in every sport my friend.

    Sounds fun. You were repeatedly kicked in the foot? I've had that from having my feet constantly stepped on with metal cleats.

    I know the history of American football thank you. I played for almost 10 years. How long have you played? When American football first started they had no face protection either, same with hockey, the sport of evolved due to the amount of severe head and neck injuries.

    Another reason why I will never play again. Why would I want to play a sport with a bunch of whiny actors?

    With the way you talk you would think soccer was a combat sport. And you call me macho?

    Nobody is buying it.

    Wrong. I played people just like yourself, fanatics who played in local leagues.

    Indeed. I always though of soccer as a game for boys. The men play sports that take heart.

    Now that's funny!
     
  11. Viv

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    Oh what's that? Another load of cobblers unrelated to the OP:-D

    Your country is 52 times bigger than UK and 100 times bigger than my country and no doubt you do what you do in football and buy your way into the finals, then the drug issue takes over. There's sport and then there's losing the entire ethos of sport and treating it like a business.
     
  12. kronikcope

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    I have no idea what you are babbling on about. Buying into what finals? What drug issues?
     
  13. wyly

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    unlike baseball where a no hitter is celebrated like it's 1999...or rugby's and football's illusional goal scoring system...what is it in rugby, Try - 5 points. Conversion goal - 2 points. Penalty goal - 3 points. Drop goal - 3 points. and similar in football...if soccer used the same illusional scoring system a 4-2 game would be converted to 28-14, and 3 points for a penalty, nice...let's not forget balls over the crossbar that football and rugby award points for, then there's no limit to the number of points that can be accumulated...soccer would end up having basketball scores...hey we can't get the ball in the goal but if we kick it over over the bar from 50yds we can get 3 points woo hoo![laughing]


    excuse me did I read that right ? wasn't that the point you were denying? that soccer is a wussie game those things don't happen in soccer :laughing:

    oh owie you poor boy... being stepped on is so much worse than having someone trying to separate your foot from the ankle



    surprise! I played football, ice hockey, basketball and martial arts as well...no it's obvious you had no idea of the history of football other wise you would have known football was designed to be stop and start bore fest... football derived from a game between McGill University of Montreal and Harvard, McGill played rugby rules Harvard played Boston Ball, from the rugby rules of McGill football was born, a flowing non stop game, it was never designed to be start, stop, stand around game of today's NFL...


    every sport does it, your lying if you deny it...



    ya, you're the one insulting another sport posing as the big tough rugby player... I didn't start or join in on a thread to heap insults other people's sporting passion you did...





    nah you played girlie soccer otherwise you wouldn't be making such childish claims
     
  14. Herkdriver

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    Sports injuries...in America.

    Basketball: 512,213
    Bicycling: 485,669
    Football: 418,260
    Soccer: 174,686
    Baseball: 155,898
    Skateboards: 112,544
    Trampolines: 108,029
    Softball: 106,884
    Swimming/Diving: 82,354
    Horseback riding: 73,576
    Weightlifting: 65,716
    Volleyball: 52,091
    Golf: 47,360
    Roller skating: 35,003
    Wrestling: 33,734


    Rugby didn't break the top 15...but of course it's not all that popular in America..some of these stats are misleading.

    It is clear though that Soccer produces sports injuries, but take a look at basketball....probably because of the large number of people that
    play the sport on some level.

    Soccer and baseball are about even..
    all these folks that talk about "bloodshed" on the soccer pitch..

    Get real...the stats indicate the sport is about as injury prone as baseball/softball.
     
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    US has an easier path into the World Cup finals than other countries because of how the competition is laid out. Then when they get there, they're rubbish. I expect that happens because of finance. I don't know the details, but the Media are forever saying football hierarchy is corrupt and subject to bribery, so no surprise the country most likely to throw money at anything....

    Plus if you have a bazillion more people to select from, you're winning before you start. And you can choose from any nationality.

    Drug issues and no doubt designer drugs which avoid the inept drug testing, as usual money being the only concern and winning by any means being how to make money. Do you think people perform like that through natural process? Kid yourself.
     
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    There is no game with more heart than football, it is hard to see more passion than a sold out 60 thousand people stadium rooting and chanting for a team, football is a game of passion.
     
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    I didn't say anything about points, I was talking about scores. I don't care if it's 6 points to a score or 87, if you have games where neither team ever scores [soccer] it's boring as hell.

    When did I ever say that? Quotes please.

    LOL - you love exaggeration don't you? I am sure all people do is run around the field trying to kick you in the ankle. Do you also have duels to the death?

    Oh, and for the record... we used metal cleats... so yes having your fingers or feet stepped on or getting racked has some serious injuries.

    raking [ˈreɪkɪŋ]
    n
    (Team Sports / Rugby) Rugby the offence committed when a player deliberately scrapes an opponent's leg, arm, etc. with the studs of his or her boots.

    Football evolved into a stop are start game, that was my point. You can thank Walter Camp;

    American football resulted from several major divergences from rugby, most notably the rule changes instituted by Walter Camp, considered the "Father of American Football". Among these important changes were the introduction of the line of scrimmage and of down-and-distance rules.[1][2][3] In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, gameplay developments by college coaches such as Eddie Cochems, Amos Alonzo Stagg, Knute Rockne, and Glenn "Pop" Warner helped take advantage of the newly introduced forward pass. The popularity of collegiate football grew as it became the dominant version of the sport in the United States for the first half of the 20th century. Bowl games, a college football tradition, attracted a national audience for collegiate teams. Bolstered by fierce rivalries, college football still holds widespread appeal in the US.

    Never seen it in rugby or hockey... sorry.

    I'm the tough guy? Pot meet kettle. If people had never played soccer before and listened to you, they would think it was a combat sport for Christ's sake!

    All soccer is girlie, so I guess you would be right then. :laughing:
     
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    if you want to play with stats football and baseball aren't even as dangerous as cheer leading and none of the three are as dangerous as soccer...how basketball has so many fatalities is a mystery, I can only assume gun fire breaks out post game...

    and injuries are subjective, a baseball player is considered injured if he has a broken nail...an ice hockey player will carry on without his teeth or go to the dressing room gets stitched up and returns to the game

     
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    It is a sport in the same way bum fights are a sport or muggings are a sport.





    If you don't realize football is an incredibly complex game, then your opinion need not be taken seriously.
     
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    If you don't realize MMA is a sport, then your opinion need not be taken seriously.

    Complex? Maybe, just as complex as many other sports. Beautiful? A little weird and a very cultist way to describe it. :omfg:
     
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    evidence that you have no understanding at all of the game or any competitive sport for that matter, a real sportsman knows it's not the points scored but how the game is played that's important...the knowledgeable fan of any sport knows that points are secondary...


    you joined kronikcope's troll thread not to defend soccer wussies but heap derision on it...

    it's the way it's played here, police being called in was not unheard of, post game brawls were not uncommon and the occasional knife fight, and I played in the nice league...



    :laughing: we never had a name for it was so routine...my brother pounded nails into his rear studs add to the effect of tackling...I took my teammate to the ER after his leg was laid open to the bone from ankle to knee(42 stitches)by "raking", but that was in the day before shin guards became mandatory protection...

    but you didn't know anything until you looked it up on wiki:-D

    evidently you play sport at a very low level, most common stall tactic there is...


    we're (soccer players) being called wussies, cupcakes, gay and you support that, where exactly have opposed Kronikcope's trolling?...I'll defend myself and my sport with any anecdotal evidence I have thank you...soccer is a hard violent sport when played at competitive level not that you've any experience playing any sport at a high level otherwise you'd never have made some of the comments that you have..
     
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    Basketball is still the leading cause of injuries however...
    much more so than soccer.

    To hear soccer players talk, they spend half their lives in the intensive care unit of the hospital...if anyone should be complaining it's basketball players....
     
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    it's typical of people who play sport at a rudimentary level, they have no inkling how complex it can be...I hear it all the time here "soccer sucks I played it for two years when I was kid so I know"...even many adult soccer(the real football) players have no idea how complex it is at a professional level, I've advanced level coaching behind me and I realize I'm just scratching the surface of soccer knowledge...
     
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    Actually Kronikcope didn't start the thread...he's just commented in it.
     
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    I know soccer is a big deal in the UK, but here in the US no one cares. Turn on Sports Center in the US and you won't see a soccer story. Go to a sports bar during the world cup and they'll have on the evening news over soccer. We have a professional soccer team here in Columbus and the majority of the residents in the area don't even know it exists. Half the time they are just giving the tickets away.

    Soooo...to your points - no one gives a (*)(*)(*)(*).
     

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