Canada: 3 Found Guilty In 'Honor' Killings

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  1. Hjalmar Thorsson

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    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46183299/ns/world_news-americas/

    Why these people want to come into free, civilized countries to do this is beyond me. If they want to act like third world savages, they should stay where the third world savages belong.
     
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    May they rot in jail and then Hell.

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    That is a very good question Hjjlmar. I have followed this case with a sense of horror since the beginning and was struck not only by the savagery but the conspiracy involved.

    I agree with the crown prosecutor and hope the sentence, one rarely handed out in this country sends a clear message to others who think they can bring their barbaric ways into our countries.
     
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    I don't agree with the way you worded that as I think these nations can have any society they choose and I'm not going to pass judgment on whether they are better or worse. However I do agree it's strange they would move to a western nation if they did not want their children to do the same things any other teen would do in Canada. I know I wouldn't move to a nation that had a culture I did not approve of.
     
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    There is nothing honorable about their killings. May the rest of their time on Earth be short and their torture eternal.
     
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    Because they believe they can live wherever they want and live under their own laws and barbaric culture, believing the laws of their adopted country shouldn't apply to them.........

    I'm really glad Canada gave them stiff sentences to show the other Muslims moving in that the same sentence will happen to them if they pull this 'honor' killing (*)(*)(*)(*).........
     
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    Abolutely disgraceful; they should receive the longest possible sentences.

    If only the US would have given such justice to their troops who murdered 28 people (inc. women and children), and the people who are comdemning this Afgani, would be equally condemning of their own murdering troops.
     
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    We should of course consider again, that regardless of the OP's intent to paint muslims as a whole as being bad people, the majority of muslims living in the West, do not murder people.
     
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    Indeed. I always question the motivation of posters' who post these kinds of stories.

    ”Honour killing” is a form of patriarchal violence that does not respect cultural boundaries. According to Human Rights Watch, such violence 'goes across cultures and across religions'. It is practised under various names—dowry killings, crimes of passion, etc—in Latin America, India, Italy, Sweden, Brazil and Great Britain":

    http://news.nationalgeographic.co.uk...orkilling.html
     
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    Zulu makes a good point that such phenomena is not limited to certain Muslim countries. There are honor killings among some Hindus (especially with inter-caste relationships) and some backward Christian areas still have such incidents. On the other hand, there appear to be a lot more backward Muslims who adhere to this concept, since the practice is rife in the Pakistan/Afghan region (number of incidents versus the total population of the area).
     
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    Honor killings will rise as long as you let backwards barbarians in based on a fake belief that cultures and religions are equal.
     
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    I did a little research and came across several Canadian Muslim spokespersons (media, organisation representatives, mullahs, etcetera) and I didn't find one that didn't condemn the dishonorable killings. This seems to be seen as extreme and unconscionable behavior even by the Muslim community in Canada.
     
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    Is this story not newsworthy?
     
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    Appeals are of course currently in the works, they will barge their way back into the news despite being in jail for years to come.
     
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    Not really. The appeal can only be heard if the judge made a legal mistake in the directive he gave to the jury or on an error in law. Most analyst are saying he removed that possibility when he included involuntary manslaughter to the sentencing option before the jury. They could have acquited, declared them guilty of a lesser charge, or as they did, declare them guilty of murder with premeditation.

    You can't ask for an appeal just because you don't like the verdict in Canada, especially for a trial before jury.
     
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    Good I hope they throw the book at them.
     
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    Are all of their daughters acting "Western" or are they afraid of having their necks stricken as their "good" book says?
     
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    In English?

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    I understand that enquiries have been made with the Afghans that they be deported on the conditions that the complete 25 year life sentences be served there. The Afghan reply is that honour killings are illegal in Afghanistan although no further information has been forthcoming.

    The Canadian government has however confirmed they will be stripped of citizenship and returned after 25 years if no other prior solution can be found as acceptable to Canada.
     
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    25 years is good. Deportation back to Afghanistan after it is better.

    I nearly feel sorry for the Afghanis, in 25 years the country may have evolved I don't think these three can.
     
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    culprits of honor killing should also be deported, including radical imams and other people who support such acts.
     

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