E-mail your Congressman and 2 Senators and ask them to support this E-verify! Here's what E-verify is all about: E-Verify Bill HR 2164 - The Legal Workforce Act | NumbersUSA - For Lower Immigration Levels Here's how to find out who your reps are and their e-mail addresses: http://www.contactingthecongress.org/ -
Sounds good. This should have been the first step before going on and on about throwing kids out of hospitals and schools. Make the employers check and if they hire illegals fine them or throw them in jail. The illegals will stop coming on their own and we won't look like monsters. By the way how come you always link to www.numbersusa.com. Are you affiliated with the website?
I say this as someone who grew up on a farm and is still involved in agribusiness on a daily basis. There is a fundamental issue with the registry system in this country. The entire system needs to be gutted and re-worked from the ground up before we start arresting people, otherwise we're just slapping a bandaid on a gaping chest wound. For the past 20 or so years we've been hiring migrant workers to help us during planting season. Four of them, who were a great group of guys and extremely hard workers, had worked with us for over 12 years. Unfortunately, they were illegal so after Georgia passed their new immigration laws, they took off to states without those laws. So, we head to the local CIS office, get redirected to the Department of Labor office, who gives us the name of four "registered" workers. They turned out to be decent workers and all was well. Sounds great right? Then we file our taxes with the IRS who discovered that the people we hired were, in fact, illegal. (Funny how government works when they're getting your money.) The folks at Citizenship and Immigration Services never even checked them. So we went through a three month long process of proving that we hired them the "legal" way the government wanted us to and it was an error on their part.
Why not just sign up for e-Verify? It costs less than $100 to set up and takes about 5 minutes to verify prospective hires. It's a lot better than hassling with the IRS. There are approx 5 million+ illegals working in the U.S. There is a total of 800,000 farm workers. What are the other 4.2 million doing for a living?
Some of it looks nice, especially the Social Security number provisions. However, I can't seem to find how they plan to register workers which is where the problems we've been having originated. When an illegal worker can walk into a federal office and the person behind the desk is going to enter them into the system either way we aren't really addressing the illegal immigrant issue.
Unlike you the "professor" does not own or run a business. His post is just an uninformed opinion. I for one find your posts in this thread very informative. I like to hear real world stories from people on the ground who deal with this stuff on a daily basis. I don't know how I feel about the immigration situation. For one thing there is so much misinformation and lack of information out there. What I do know is whatever is to be done it must be done humanely. I am not for summarily arresting business owners who are found to be hiring illegal aliens. As you pointed out the verification system is cumbersome and flawed. I would much rather allow an illegal alien to work than arrest a law abiding citizen. If people want to get rid of illegal aliens they need to come up with a fast efficient accurate method of verification.
Well, it would address the very real problem with identity theft, specifically in the case SSN's. We got a letter from the IRS one year saying that we had to garnish the wages of one of our workers because of backed taxes associated with his SSN. Of course it wasn't his so he left and came back an hour later with a new one at which point we told him to leave. We reported the aforementioned worker to INS and they did nothing. Being able to assume someone's identity in under an hour needs to be addressed. It's literally all about the taxes for pretty much every government agency involved. My personal stance is that we need to separate immigration into two categories. Those seeking permanent residence and those seeking work. I won't speak for those in Texas since illegal immigration there generally has a more violent and economic impact than in other parts of the U.S; but in our neck of the woods most of the immigrants are there to work and send money back to their families in Mexico so when they return, they live in comparative luxury. They do the jobs that most other people in this country won't (trust me, we've tried). Why then do we make it so difficult for them to gain entrance to work? It only encourages criminal behavior. This would require that we make some fundamental changes, however. Children born in the U.S. whose parents are foreign nationals or here on work visas should not be granted citizenship. Illegal immigrants and those on visas should not be eligible for social programs like welfare or unemployment. Yes, this would make their lives here tougher when out of work or newly arriving but that's the chance they are taking. If they commit a felony while on a visa, they should face immediate deportation without the possibility of gaining legal access to the U.S. again.
Illegal immigrants work in many sectors of the U.S. economy. According to National Public Radio, about ONLY 3 PERCENT WORK IN AGRICULTURE; 33 percent have jobs in service industries; and substantial numbers can be found in construction and related occupations (16 percent), and in production, installation, and repair (17 percent).[5] According to USA Today in 2006, about 4 percent work in farming; 21 percent have jobs in service industries; and substantial numbers can be found in construction and related occupations (19 percent), and in production, installation, and repair (15 percent), with 12% in sales, 10% in management, and 8% in transportation.
Why would I do a stupid thing like that? I don't like e-verify, I don't support the mandate, and I don't support enforcement of it.
This is what you guys want? To have to apply for government permission before attaining a job? Why not set it up at the grocery store as well? "E-verify" people before they're allowed to check out. I mean we all know how infallible technology is and how trustworthy the government is, what could go wrong?
Indeed, put all of your trust in the holy, almighty government, and it will lead you to salvation and the promised ethnically pure land you dream about.
I appreciate that sentiment, I really do. I would honestly prefer to not have to worry about dealing with the government especially since every program relies on the business owner to do all the real work which takes costs us time and money.
How about stopping being felons and start hiring Americans? And paying what it takes to hire Americans? Its very telling you go down to the Customs and Immigration to hire! This indicates you are simply on a hunt for illegals. The fact that you wish to treasonously undercut American labor and get cheapo fearful semi-slaves to pad your pockets tells us all. All the Conservatives around here blab off about the evil "illegals", yet hire lawn care companies, labor and maintenance, house cleaning and nannies clearly KNOWING they are illegal while doing their whining and crying. Jail for you and those like you. NOW. Then we will see E-verify get off the ground in a hurry when all the businesses demand a way to check citizenship. And NO phony programs to bring in cheapo foreign labor until the unemployment rate is down to NO MORE than 2 or 3%. Maybe not even then, so we will discover the TRUE value of sweat labor from all the lazy fatass Americans who think hard labor should be low paid.
Wow, I've never seen a more misinformed diatribe. My workers make $10/hour except for Joe, our English-speaking worker, who makes $12. The reason we go to the CIS office is because we're interested in hiring LEGAL workers. I won't even dignify the rest of this garbage with a response until you go back and read what I've written.
Spock here. I read somewhere that someone keyed in Obama's social security number from Connecticut into E-verify and it didn't pass a verification check. It had been flagged. Is that true?
An open border policy is the only sane immigration policy, and should be a requirement for every state with whom we sign free trade agreements.
There's plenty of jobs that Americans, for various reasons, simply will not do. Especially in the agricultural sector. Even at $14-16/hour they won't work as temporary field laborers, for example. Even at twice minimum wage they won't do it. That would actually indicate his intent to hire legally resident workers. Why do you hate America so much that you would wage a war against our own citizens through such self-destructive programs?
