How to raise the U.S. economy from the dead!

Discussion in 'Economics & Trade' started by DeathStar, Feb 21, 2012.

  1. DeathStar

    DeathStar Banned

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    We need to......


    1. ELIMINATE CORPORATE LOBBYING, which has resulted in criminal things such as the government FORCING us to have car insurance and FORCING us to only drive "authorized vehicles" on the road, which gives Big Car and Big Car Insurance a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing monopoly over us,

    2. eliminate Big Central Banking and not allow people to take huge loans so easily (which largely is what caused the current recession),

    3. we need to eliminate all these BURDENSOME regulations on businesses that are forcing employers to not hire anyone except for seasonal positions (yes, THAT is why it's so hard to get an entry-level job these days)

    4. we need to GET THE (*)(*)(*)(*) AWAY from fossil fuels (albeit gradually),

    5. eliminate the artificial preserving of old peoples' life spans through social security, medicare, medicaid etc.,

    6. we need to stop funding unnecessary aggressive military and POLICE STATES that waste countless dollars on busting people for (*)(*)(*)(*)ing non-violent recreational drug offenses,

    7. we need to destroy PUBLIC unions (no I'm not contradicting myself here because PUBLIC unions are destructive whereas private unions are often the only defense that the "peasants", as you rightwingers probably like to call them, have against the "nobles"),

    8. we need to dismantle Big Land Rent and get rid of economically unproductive land renters who do nothing but leech, and finally (perhaps the most controversial....)....

    9....we need to not let stupid/economically inviable people have kids, or at the very least, not let them raise kids, and FORCE them to be adopted by more RESPONSIBLE parents. Raising a child in poor economic conditions is child abuse.


    If we did all those things, I GUARANTEE, and I'd literally be willing to bet my own life on this, that the economic prosperity of this country would skyrocket beyond anyone's wildest dreams.
     
  2. raymondo

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    Please bet your life , and i will fly over and help you die . Nicely , of course .
     
  3. DeathStar

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    oooo I'm so scared. Your'e so scary. lol!

    You're an internet warrior piece of crap, is what you are.

    Anyways, do you have an intelligent response to my OP? I thought not.
     
  4. bacardi

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    the most important thing the US can do is start living within its means. No more deficit spending!
     
  5. raymondo

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    So is that how you see everybody who disagrees with you?
    I am afraid your attempts at personal insult are as intellectually driven as your compelling solution to restore the US economy .
    I will point something out to you which is very good advice , however deaf you may be ------ this place can be as useful for preaching as it can be for learning .Providing you keep your eyes and brain open .
    And PS , As you chose to answer your own question , I shall deprive you of reading my brilliant solution , which will , in all probability , put me in line for a Nobel prize .
    That means you can submit your piece of garbage instead and probably pick up some comedy award .
     
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    hoytmonger New Member

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    Eliminate government and you'll have a prosperous society.
     
  7. SiliconMagician

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    I'll live prosperously as soon as me and my post-apolcalyptic anarchic gang shoot you and take your stuff becuase there is no Government to stop me.
     
  8. Small_government_caligula

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    :lol:

    You're a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) though, why would anyone "follow" you? :lol:
     
  9. raymondo

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    That Caligula dude .
    Wasn't he the one who was insane and regarded as arrogant , cruel and vain ?
    Is that why you are using his name ? He was stabbed to death , aged 38 . Loathed
     
  10. DeathStar

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    But you need government to protect Big Land Rent and Big Corporation which rightists love!!

    Seriously though, your response is extremely reductionist.
     
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    Yes, that's exactly why, do you feel smart now?
     
  12. raymondo

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    I feel exactly that . Natural state
    Some have , the rest never will .
    Well , if you are arrogant , cruel and vain on your admission , we should add
    Masochist presumably .
     
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    Sounds about right to me. The problem is the entire economy is being propped up with massive debt and money creation. As soon as they stop doing this then the economy will tank, which is what is needed to actually start recovery, and there is maybe 2 politicians in DC that would take the brutal punishment in the media and the polls and do what is best for our country. The rest do not want it to happen on their watch and what we are witnessing is the biggest game of kick the can down the road in the history of the world. The US treasury bubble when it pops will make the great depression look like a blip on a map.

    The jig is about up though. The boom and busts are happening at a much more rapid pace. If it weren't for the number rigging at the BLS and other statistical agencies then people could actually see what is really going on. The rally in the market is going to be very short lived. People need to get their money out and convert it to hard assets or they are going to lose it all. All paper assets are about to be worthless. All we are waiting for is the first domino to fall...there will be no forewarning people...you are not going to see some emergency broadcast alert that the markets and economy are about to officially tank.

    If you read this post....don't say you haven't been warned.

    PS..I am not some doomsday conspiracy theorist...I do this for a living and see the writing on the wall.
     
  14. DeathStar

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    Why would people immediately stop producing valued goods and services? (Yes, I use the "axiomatic economics" stance).
     
  15. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    You wouldn't have capitalism. Government is a crucial economic agent given capitalism's tendency towards economic crisis
     
  16. DeathStar

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    Both lawless capitalism and socialism/communism lead towards problems, I'd think. Geoism/geoist-capitalism does not.
     
  17. Reiver

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    The problem with capitalism is its tendency towards market concentration, plus the use of a coercive labour market to inflame economic rents

    That would be called "a load of bobbins". You're not another Georgist peddling long dead prance are you?
     
  18. DeathStar

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    Depending on who you are, you either have a problem with capitalism because you're afraid that you can't succeed on your own, or else you're afraid of physical resources being bottled up in the hands of a few.

    The latter is something that can be a problem. Which is why I'm a geoist capitalist.

    I say "geoist" because "Georgist" is too narrow; I don't necessarily agree with everything that man said. "Geo" just means "Earth" I believe, so it's not necessarily as narrow/specific as "Georgist".

    But I think geoism basically gives us the benefits of capitalism without the problems that can result..which is very simple, bottling up of physical resources.
     
  19. Reiver

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    Nope. This is about economic 'theory of the firm' and an understanding of how the labour market operates. It encompasses both orthodox economics (via the likes of new institutionalism and its bid to update neoclassical economics) and heterodox economics (with labour analysis finding similarities between Marxism and neoclassicalism). End result? We know that there is a tendency towards economic crisis.

    It hasn't progressed since Henry. Its relevance is marginal
     
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    1. agreed. sure the main goal of business is to gain more money and influence, but gaining influence through the government is unfair and causes more taxation, etc.

    2. agreed. central banking is basically the reason we are where we are. the government ran out of money after giving all those loans.

    3. agreed. now that is just stupid. but, in a way it also makes sense. such a rotation allows for others to get positions and jobs after a time.

    4. AGREED!!!!! i hate them soooo much! we already have the technology for it but the people and state are too lazy to transition. that is when you start lowering prices for environ-friendly products and raise the prices on fossil fuels. of course this would put the masses in a rage, but if we aren't radical about it the job will never get done.

    5. soo like take them off of life-support? what do you mean?

    6. not agreed. as i said in one of your other threads, if i were in charge their would be MORE police. do you think it is alright to have any drugs? i despise those as well btw [ ;) ]
    doesn't matter if it is weed or cocaine, it should all be removed cuz it f***'s with your brain.

    9. agreed. but how do you make the process for determining who is financially smart and secure? now, i have a question, have you read Anthem ( by ayn rand) ? you should, i think you would like it. but another problem is that the foster system is already screwed up and orphanages are usually low on funds, this idea would only make the problem worse.
     
  21. danboy9787

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    We need a DOCTOR. Ron Paul 2012 :) and quick before Obama signs a DNR on our economy! haha
     

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