God is not grasped by any human being

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  1. dattaswami

    dattaswami New Member

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    The human being is the Mula Maya only in essence and it being the part of illusion and God being beyond the entire creation, God is not grasped by any human being.

    The human being is a composite of three parts: The outer most gross body being the condensed matter, the inner subtle body being the group of different works of inert energy and the inner most causal body being the very inert primordial energy, all these three are in essence the Mula Maya or the primordial energy only.

    Since the primordial energy is the illusion created by God, the human being becomes a part of the illusion itself. God being beyond the entire illusion cannot be grasped by the human being. These two points are the reasons for the human beings in not grasping the original nature of God.
     
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    then that would mean you are delusional!
     
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    charliedk New Member Past Donor

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    doctor's orders dattaswami..take 2 hits of LSD and see me in the morning..:eyepopping:
     
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    So I have a couple questions then:

    1.) Why is it necessary for God to deceive man? This has also been shown in Christian scripture.

    2.) If God 'cannot be grasped by the human being' then isn't it futile to even attempt to know God? Wouldn't we be better served to wait until we are separated from our limited physical bodies?
     
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    If God cannot be grasped by any human being why is it that even primitives cultures worship something. And all cultures have some kind of creation story.

    ....that which is known about God is evident [m]within them; for God made it evident to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. 21 For even though they knew God, they did not [n]honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and [o]crawling creatures.

    Romans 1:19-
     
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    In the absence of real information, people will dream up and spread lies. Its human Nature.

    You don't think there is one culture that hasn’t ask how or why the Earth is here?
     
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    We are unreal with respect to God. But with respect to us this world is real.
     
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    Yes, that is true. Some people think that God is energy, some people think that GOd is like space, some think that God is light, some think that God is awareness, like this every body takes some imaginable items as God! This leads to the split among people and they quarrel with each other!!



    All the forms of the God (Jesus, Krishna etc) are equal because the unimaginable God is one and the same existing in all these forms. When the same current is flowing in the wires of copper and aluminum, we say that both the wires are equal from the point of the same current flowing in them. This does not mean that copper and aluminum are one and the same. If you do not realize the current existing in these wires, you will find only the difference between wires and not oneness, which is the current. Unless one realizes the unimaginable God, he will be seeing only difference in the different forms. Such state is primitive stage of knowledge and such person sees Shiva and Vishnu separately.

    Such a person naturally sees Shiva and Jesus also separately. When the Hindu saint sees Shiva and Vishnu equally, based on the same logic he can see Shiva, Vishnu, Jesus, Mohammad, Buddha, Mahaveera etc., equally. This is the unique greatness of Hinduism, which stands as a mini model for universal spirituality. Thus, a Hindu is expected to die as a human being realizing the Universal Spirituality in the end and therefore is expected to take Sanyasa and become a saint in the end at least. Here, Sanyasa means achievement of such knowledge of universal spirituality that alone brings peace and harmony in the world.
     
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    1. God never deceived man. It is the limitation of human being. You should not blame God that He is unable to make us understand the unimaginable God. So far we are thinking that we are able to understand God after doing lot of penance. This wrong knowledge is removed by God and today, you understood that you can never understand God. This point is also supported by the absence of spatial dimensions of God.

    By this, scientists need not think that the unimaginable God beyond space does not exist at all. The genuine miracles, which are unimaginable events, exhibited by unimaginable source called as God, establish the existence of unimaginable entity and it is supported by the point that such unimaginable God is beyond space being the creator of space.

    2. When love on God increases one will search out for God and will know that God is unimaginable and beyond reach, through the preaching of the same God who has come in human form. Thus catching hold of the human form of the God is the real aim of life, because Human form of God is the God Himself.

    Yes God is unimaginable, but if He do not come to us then how will we interact with Him. Therefore the unimaginable God comes in human form so that one can see Him, touch Him and co-live with Him. Suppose you have a son and if he lives far off from you and in a remote place where there is no chance for communication and never comes to meet you what you will feel. Like wise even though God is unimaginable and you can never imagine Him or catch His real nature, due to His love to His children God comes in human form so that we can meet Him here itself, and we can co-live with Him, and the identity mark of such God in human form is the wonderful divine knowledge that you are hearing now!

    The knowledge of God is called ‘Brahma Jnana’. The first form of such knowledge is the recognition of God. You cannot recognize God if He is not experienced by you and He can be only experienced through the medium in which you are present. If you are satisfied only with a vision He can appear in many visions such as fish (Matsya Avatara). But if you want to talk with Him and clear your doubts, then He should be in the human form alone.

    Thus Brahma Jnana means the identification of the Lord who comes in your medium (human incarnation for human beings). Shankara has said that unless the mind is completely purified (Chitta Suddhi), one is not eligible for Brahma Jnana or Jnana Yoga. This means that unless the mind gets rid of the impurities, which are egoism and jealousy, one is not eligible to identify the Lord. The biggest problem in this Brahma Jnana comes only when the preacher Himself reveals that He is the Lord.
     

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