It's on! Worldwide burn Quran/Mohammad day if Iran won't...

Seems many support him, he could do well in the usa.

Think of the possiblities with Terry burning religious books in presidential debates and the many slurs at his religion of choice.

I am sure Freedomseeker would vote for him.

 

You'd think, but no, he's as crazy as the Jihadists and Muslims who won't renounce Jihad (not "terrorism"....Jihad.)
But the televised debates wouldn't be quite so boring if he was in them!

 

You are claiming to be more wise than your creator. You are treading on a treacherous path. Be wise. In a flash you were brought into this world and in a flash you'll pass on.

 

You're VASTLY overstating Jones' popularity in this country, GZ.

Just because an otherwise insignificant attention-whore has done a successful job of manipulating our sensationalist, self-serving media for his own self-aggrandizement doesn't mean that he is popular amongst Americans. The hype is clouding your vision...

 

lol... I would suspect that, in a decade or so, no burnings will be necessary, because the Islamic World will have chilled out some.

A lot of these cultures just aren't used to the concept of free speech. They're not accustomed to being offended and having people get away with it. When they realize that freedom actually means that you have to deal with the occasional offense in a non-violent way, then they'll move on.

Until then, we'll continue to have these conflicts because of their short tempers.

 

My vision was clouded in the Gw bush junior terms. I am still in awe of that. Junior in 8 years of power.

Mr Terry Jones if did became president, i would not be surprised.

 

The Qur'an leads one to want a totalitarian theocratic Islamic state, following (basically) Mohammad's example. So to move beyond that, long-term at least, they'll need to leave Islam, arguably.

 

Yeah doesn't he have like, what, 30 attendees?

 

You approve of Christ, but don't follow Islam (by your signature line, I see). Islam has many inconsistencies in it, that's one reason you probably don't follow it. But you should leave Jesus because the Bible has more contradictions in it than even the Quran does!

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_name.html

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/contra/by_name.html

As you learn more Secular Humanistic facts like I just gave you, you'll start to see the light of truth more. There is a better belief system, where one does not have to defend contradictions.

 

LOL - 50, at best.

The media should be embarrassed that he's played them like a Stradivarius. Whatever sells, I guess...

 

Philip II never left Catholicism and Elizabeth I never gave up Protestantism, and yet here everybody is getting along.

 

http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/bible.htm

You have offered me nothing new. But surely you're convinced you have, as you evangelize across the Earth...

 

A ) All men are fallible - did Mohamed claim to be infallible ? and did he really "execute apostates " ? - please enlighten me with verification from a reliable preferably , a learned - unbiased . source.

Yes , Muslims do view the Quran as the word of Allah , just as Jews view the Torah as the word of their god and Christians their Bible.

For now , I prefer sitting as piggy in the middle. (wink)
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Put Terry Jones in a suit, shave his beard off then teach him the Bush junior smirk (copyrighted)

Ladies and gentleman, the next president of america....

 

Except , periodically , In US when someone torch a Baptist church or in Northern Ireland or Belgium , Caths v Prods - or in some Sth American countries where Protestant (Presbytarian Missioneries ) are violently attacked by Catholics - otherwise , as you say "everybody is getting along " HUH ?







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When actors and English professors start beheading people and acting like fascist pigs, if it bothers them.


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Well, he definitely executed the Qurayza.

 

Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 83, Number 37
http://www.cmje.org/religious-texts/hadith/bukhari/083-sbt.php

GO LEARN...

 

Yes, they were CAPTIVES, 600-900 captives, in one day at Banu Qurayza, killed. George Bush didn't do that, so he's far more moral/compassionate that Mohammad. No one that barbaric is the final messenger of the one true "god", clearly.

My black Labrador Retriever isn't even THAT barbaric. Come to think of it, Mohammad said to kill all black dogs, so Mohammad would have even killed ol' Rex, too!
https://www.google.com/search?q=moh....,cf.osb&fp=a0aa296736f4c892&biw=1318&bih=724


Muslims, Mohammad conned you...big time.

 

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Given the context & heat of the debate,
your intent seemed to me, to be an attempt to conduct a slur exclusive to Islam –
By offering the proper texts I fairly concluded that you ascribed to their burning
& though that slur may be all well & good considering the texts you chose
Such a slur cannot be fairly conducted without pointing out that within
the texts other Abahamic Religions such Odious texts may also be found
Bigoted Idiocy is NOT confned to Islam

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If such a slur was NOT your intent - I owe you an apology on this one - & I here offer it
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Though this is not a Historical discussion –
You should be able to see that the Histoical record is not Irrelevant to the present debate

& be at rest;
For I have NO trouble criticizing Islam and the Brutal excesses of its more Radical Practitioners
But I take Umbrage with any Bigoted approach to the problem, that hopes to paint the whole thing
................................................................................... with a broad brush colored with Hate

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Evidently your Arrogance got in the way of your Intellect & you missed the point
Burning Qarans has little to do with speech – It has much to do with the Premeditated inciting of Hate
.................................................................. While full knowing what the Deadly results will be

The metephor holds true - It is a simple valid comparisson - The intent & the results match

The metaphor holds that Burning Qarans to incite Hate is both Immoral and Illegitimate
to claim the use of Free Speech to scream Fire in a crowded Dance Hall
Especially when you admit to the knowlege of the Deaths that will result
Especially when you admit to doing it in order to acheive some Political End


& that is exactly the sort of thing that is being proposed here on this Thread


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BullCrap –
This is a particularly FLISH Canard – You misrepresent me

Nobody here is proposing any Law to be passed that would in anyway prevent
................................................ people from exercising any of their Rights or Freedoms

Review
What is clearly stated is this :
That the purposeful, Provoking, Insulting & Enraging of a marginalized Backward people to Violence
Knowing before hand, as to what the disastrous results of such Provocations may well be
Then such Provocations can only be seen as the Stupid Bigoted actions of a Hate motivated Brute


And as such we should be Opposed to it & we should Refrain from engaging in such Bald Idiocy

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Above Post Continued

We come close to agreement here.

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Then if you recognize this, why are you not here proposing these more constructive Behaviors


Instead of insisting
upon others rights, to throw Gasoline & Matches into a Dance Hall crowded with Maniacs ?

Hate is of that sort is Immoral & has nothing to do with defending another’s Rights
Recognize it for what it is and speak out against it, or be Complicite in its Fruits

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I propose Nothing of the Sort * You misrepresent my position again - Perhaps you owe me an apology ?

I advocate that people refrain from Stupid Wrong Headed Displays of Hate
............................................................. Hate that is meant to provoke Violence


& when they insist on doing so, they should be called out for the Degenerate Bigots that they are
& they should be made aware of their Stink & the Blood upoon their Hands

Laughable - Dishonest - You say ?
Try Racial or Religious Slur against any other group in America
Try it in a public place – Try it against Jews or Negroes,

Try it on the scale that is talked about here
....................... – See how far you get



You will find yourself very quickly thrown in in Jail for Inciteing a RIOT
So much for your much vaunted FreeSpeech in such circumstances


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What blame is shifted here? Is it some a vague moralism ? - How does it it apply ?

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And if you think that your rights are NOT negotiable you best review
some of the Legislation that has been passed recently

or

"Crouch down and lick the ‘Corporate’ hand that feeds on you"
"May your chains sit lightly upon you..."




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An NDE ?


I have had that sort of experience - being in another Place - another Time
.................................................... It is a life changing Event is it not !



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NDE indeed...

I went two places. One felt eternally blissful, I cannot put into words how amazing the experience was, but I felt only a fraction of the intensity of said realm of existence, any more would have been too much for my mortal body to experience.... The second, well, same things, can't explain, opposite side of the coin....