Michelle's Food Nazis Determined to Squeeze All Manhood Out of the Military

Hardly. If she exhibits the same attitude as those who created the policy in the first place, then she is as much up for critical remarks as they are. My remarks were tailored to the quotes, and they didn't belong to Michelle. That is all.

 

You need to make up your mind just which way you're going to swing.... didn't I just read your post to Rich where you pretty much agreed w/him? And now you're saying his post isn't logical? And where did I mention MO's name in my post?

 

You did in your first post and never recanted.

 

And who would ever have thought that they could actually be INSULTED by MO encouraging healthy eating habits to combat obesity, heart disease, diabetes, et al in children and adults.

I know a man who was in the hospital today getting a heart catherization to see if he needed either further open heart surgery or a stent for blocked arteries. He had a quadruple bypass at age 37 and since then has had another triple bypass, a stent and thought he might need another stent today (but didn't). His wife prepares healthy meals which he eats and then snacks on beer, summer sausage, and the very worst things he could eat for his condition. If he'd been taught healthy eating habits as a child, he could have prevented this altogether as it's an acquired condition.

 

She doesn't have to be - she has access to the best dieticians in the country. SHE has the clout to put the programs in motion.

 

He was military?

 

Seven years ago? Why would she have done that?

 

do you think our men and women in the military are gonna pass over on a steak for some rabbit food? as much as they PT that will not happen. have you seen a hungry soldier after a harsh workout??? lol its like a lion getting its first meal in weeks.

michelle can go around spreading her little idea, but in the military its not really gonna even be a after thought lol.

 

Any particular reason you might think the difference between this man getting a triple bypass and not getting one is having his foods color-coded?

I can't speak for everyone, but I have a serious problem, not with the whether we encourage healthy eating, but the how of it, and I see no reason to believe that addressing this issue like we would a cafeteria for elementary children is going to make one iota's worth of difference

 

Why shouldn't the military eat the normal American diet? After all fat bastards are easier to shoot than skinny ones

 

They can choose to eat whatever foods they want from the selection available. None of the foods offered is off-limits - they're simply marked to tell them which ones will provide energy and which ones will produce fat if they eat too many.

This is a basic training center if I'm not mistaken. Most of these young guys come straight from home sitting down at night to eat whatever their mother puts in front of them. They're going to grab whatever looks good and filling at the moment. Giving them some guidelines to choosing healthier meals -WHILE NOT TELLING THEM THEY CAN'T EAT THE RED FOODS IF THEY WANT - seems perfectly sensible and logical to me.

One thing the article didn't mention - do the troops object to it and feel they're being "forced" to eat something MO - instead of the military dietician - wants them to eat? Or do they just pick the foods they want no matter what label it has on it?

 

I don't think there's any question that if he had learned healthy eating habits when he was young instead of just eating what looked good and whatever his mother put in front of him, a healthy diet would be second nature. He may have still had problems with blocked arteries but not at as young an age and not as severe.

Why not? Most of the guys in basic training are in their teens or early 20's. Unless somebody took the trouble while they were growing up to explain to them why a meal put in front of them by their mother was healthy and why, or had it explained to them that certain foods give you energy and others just make you fat - how would they know when suddenly they're responsible for choosing their own meals? They don't have to turn down the steak or the chocolate pie - just don't eat it at every meal.

If having a green sticker on certain foods tells them they can eat all they want of that and it's good for their body, and a red one means "Hey - I'd better just have one slice of that pie instead of 3 or 4" - it's all to the good as far as I'm concerned. Some kids WANT to eat healthy - others think it doesn't make any difference what they eat. Basic training is a good time to learn.

 

I laughed out loud at this.

When I was a kid all those years ago, steak and potatoes were really good for you, with eggs and bacon for breakfast. With real butter on the biscuits.

Then they decided that was bad, carbs were what people needed, especially athletes. Lots of spaghetti.

And no butter, use margerine. And no oil at all, oil is bad, stop frying foods.

Nope, wrong again, now carbs are bad for you. What people need is more protein.....back to steak.

And eggs are ok again, at least the egg whites, dump the yolk, too much cholesterol.

Darn, wrong again, maybe the yolks are really good for your heart after all.

And that margerine, its really bad for you now, trans fats and all that crap. Go back to ...... butter.

And oil, sorry, wrong again, eat lots of oil, turns out its good for your heart after all. Frying is ok now.


Yea, dieticians know whats good for us. Sure.

Dieticians have taken us in one big circle. I'm eating what my Mom fixed for me when I was a kid. Turns out Mom was right all along.

Remember, Mom knows best. Not dieticians.

 

Insulting to whom? Those on KP? Hahaha... too funny.

 

I'm really loving how the right gets all worked up over the littlest thing Obama. The stress is killing you.

 

Yep - they really need to watch their diets. You know how bad certain foods are for high blood pressure.

 

"If he had been taught healthy eating habits as a child...." I don't buy that. Time to quit blaming mom & dad for his health condition. He's had all these decades to turn his eating habits around and listen to his doctor....

You said he eats the healthy meals his wife fixes, but he still chooses to drink beer, eat summer sausage, etc and he knows he has blocked arteries - he's a big boy and it's his choice. Anyone w/blocked arteries and still eats something like summer sausage is asking for trouble....

I've seen enuf people change their eating habits, due to a medical problem or putting on weight and they did it all on their own..... it's called personal responsibility.... I hope your friend will be ok........

 

so there is no method of raising awareness concerning healthy eating that you would be opposed to?

Mandating every soldier wear shirts displaying various health slogans would be okay? Put pictures of food on their bedsheets, with the sheets being color-coded accordingly? Have them attend classes where they can learn the food groups? Stop using watermelons and cantaloupe as target practice and switch out to oversized hamburgers and such? Perhaps have them listen to tapes that tell them how to eat while they are sleeping(that one could be really effective).

How would you react to any of this if someone treated you like you didn't know anything? Would you merely take it and appreciate their good intentions? or would you question the assumptions on which their intentions are based?

Perhaps there are some soldiers that simply require a few color coded pictures to eat better. But there are ways to address their needs individually without insulting the other 99% of them.

 

LOL! Thanks for the laugh .... so true! BUT there are 2 things here that are bad for you - margarine and vegetable oil. Margarine is everything BUT food. It even has plastic in it. Pure virgin oil is the only oil to use......

I remember quite a few yrs ago, they decided not to stuff your Thanksgiving turkey b/c 'the dressing isn't cooked all the way thru and you could die from it'. I tho't 'wthell are they talking about? I had always stuffed my bird and my family survived every Thanksgiving!' Then they changed their mind about that....

The key to eating is eat whatever your want as long as it's in moderation and you're active........

 

You may be right. I'm sure the soldiers really are so grateful to be told that apple pie is higher in calories than the celery sticks and carrots....I hope they don't get the cute little color-coded labels mixed up and slap a green one on a pie and etc etc.... what a mess that would be, huh? {{ SARCASM}}

 

VERY well said...... but it'll float rite over their heads...

 

What's this about squeezing my manhood?

 

Don't you think this is getting a little ridiculous? Why do you object to attempts to make our soldiers healthier, give them more strength and endurance and set good eating habits for a lifetime that may prevent serious illnesses when they're older? I know it's their choice to eat what they want, but is it so farfetched to think some of them might WANT to know what eating different kinds of food will do for them?

Most young men are very conscious of their body weight and strength - especially when they're in basic training (I would think) and might even APPRECIATE knowing what's good for their bodies and what isn't. Unless they're simply unable to control their appetites no matter what it does to them which I would find very unusual in young, healthy men. What's insulting or embarrassing about going through a food line that has different foods marked with a color code? Do you really think they're that easily insulted?

They're still free to pig out and eat whatever they please if they're offered something they particularly like or looks particularly good to them. Nobody's standing there with a ruler to smack their hands if they "pick the wrong things". It's not a requirement - it's educating them about what they're putting in their bodies. And - as was said earlier - if you're really so enraged by this - take it up with the military. It's their program. They put it in place and they'd be the ones to change it.

 

My daughter runs marathons 2 or 3 times a year. She eats normally most of the time but a week or so before a race, she follows a diet recommended by dieticians to give her more strength and stamina. I'm not sure, but I think it's a lot of carbohydrates. I don't know anything about sports and what's good for athletes to eat when they're training and doing special activities so it's something I couldn't teach her but she does it because she wants to be at her best. It just makes all kinds of sense to me that young men and women in basic training might feel the same way and would actually be INTERESTED in knowing what foods would be more beneficial to them during their training to help them get through the extra strain on their bodies. But that's just me. Since some of you think it's such a bad idea and so humiliating, I really think you should write to the military and give them your opinion.