Challenge the Quran

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  1. WanRen

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    This would mean your quran is corrupt and that it is indeed not the words of Allah; Sura 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Apostle of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not

    "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary. But so it was made to appear to them", you are right Isa was not crucified by the Jews, the Jews killed Jesus Christ the exact words crystal very clear "JESUS CHRIST" it did not say ISA was killed. It just so happen that Isa look like Jesus Christ, Isa is just a look a like he is not Jesus Christ.

    So this contradict your claim that no one was killed, your quran know who was killed but you said you don't know "We killed Jesus Christ".

    After, the Jews killed Jesus Christ, Allah will RAISE Him up Sura 4:158 Nay,Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise

    Remember those are the exact words of Allah: Sura 4:158 Nay,Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise

    Jesus Christ is not Isa.
     
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    Sorry.. Isa is Jesus in Arabic.....
     
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    Isa is son of Mary only
    Jesus Christ is Son of Allah and son of Mary, huge difference.

    Sura 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Apostle of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not

    The Jews killed Jesus Christ not Isa, John 19

    Mohammed has misidentified Isa with Jesus Christ.
     
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    You are completey confused, WanRen......
     
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    Not at all, this is base on Fatihah concept of reading and interpretation.
    Sura 4:157 is very clear, Jews killed Jesus Christ not Isa.
    Plus I will ask you the same question I ask Fatihah which she chose to ignore to answer:

    Assuming Isa means Jesus, so who did the jews killed if not Jesus?
    Why did the Jews want to kill Jesus?
    According to history Jesus of Nazareth was accuse of blasphemy by the Jewish High Priest Caiphas, Jesus refuse to deny he is not the Son of God that was the main issue why the Jews wanted to kill Jesus. If that is the case, why didn't the Isa look alike accepted Caiphas accusation and admit he is not the Son of God?

    Isa actually don't need a substitute he could have answer Caiphas just like he answer Allah that he is not the son of God and do not worship him, why didn't Isa did that?


    Originally Posted by WanRen
    Isa is son of Mary only
    Jesus Christ is Son of Allah and son of Mary, huge difference.

    Sura 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Apostle of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not

    The Jews killed Jesus Christ not Isa, John 19

    Mohammed has misidentified Isa with Jesus Christ.
     
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    Response: No where does the Qur'an say that it knows who was killed, nor a look alike was killed, thus debunking your absurd claim. Furthermore, it does not change the fact that Jesus was not crucified, according to your own bible in John 20:17 where Jesus says that he has not yet ascended to God, meaning he was not dead or crucified. Debunked as usual.
     
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    That is why your quran is lying because here it clearer stated that some one was killed;

    Sura 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Apostle of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not

    And Allah RAISE (resurrected Jesus Christ after He was killed);
    Sura 4:158 Nay,Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise

    And John 20:17 Jesus has not yet ascended to Allah after He was killed and resurrected, this verse and; Sura 4:158 Nay,Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise these two verses agrees on each other.

    Again your ineffective reading and comprehensive interpretation method / system has failed you.
     
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    Response: The words "someone was killed" is no where in the text, nor can you quote otherwise, thus debunking yourself as usual. Thus the qur'an is clear that Jesus was not crucified, and your own bible agrees in John 20:17 where Jesus says that he has not yet ascended to God, meaning he did not die or was crucified. Debunked as usual.
     
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    Sura 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Apostle of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not

    Yes indeed, that is why I am asking who did the Jews killed? And why didn't Isa testify to Caiphas that he is not Son of Allah just like what he told Allah in;

    5:116 And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah.?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.

    Sura 5:117 "Never said I to them aught except what Thou didst command me to say, to wit, 'worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord'; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when Thou didst take me up Thou wast the Watcher over them, and Thou art a witness to all things.

    And John 20:17 Jesus has not yet ascended to Allah after He was killed and resurrected, this verse and; Sura 4:158 Nay,Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise. These two verses agrees on each other.

    Again your faulty, ineffective reading and comprehensive interpretation method / system has failed you, thanks to your methods we have clearly expose that your quran is not the word of Allah but that of Uthman and Mohammed. That Isa is not Jesus Christ, Isa did not die on the cross it was Jesus Christ who died on the cross and Allah will raise Him up Sura 4:158.:reading:
     
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    Response: Another failed rebuttal. For no where in John 20:17 does it say that Jesus did not yet ascend after he was killed and resurrected. The words "after he was killed and resurrected" is mentioned no where in the verse, nor can you quote and prove otherwise. Debunked again. Thus your own weak rebuttal fails to disprove the fact that your own bible states that Jesus was not crucified. Thanks for the confirmation.
     
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    Sura 2:121 Those to whom We have sent the Book (Bible) study it as it should be studied: They are the ones (Christians) that believe therein: Those who reject faith (Muslims) therein,- the loss is their own.

    Listen to Allah, read the Bible and cease your mission to distort, destroy and debunk Allah's words.

    Already we see Sura 4:158 Nay,Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise conforming with John 20 Gospels.

    And that Isa is not Jesus Christ. And that your quran got the story of Jesus Christ wrong that is why you do not know who and why the Jews wanted to kill Jesus Christ.

    Sura 2:121 Those to whom We have sent the Book study it as it should be studied

    Do not use your faulty, erroneous method of reading and interpretation study the Bible and the Quran the way it should be Allah's way not your way.

    By the way, intoxicaants (wine whisky any alcoholic drinks) is a creation of Satan according to your quran;
    5:90 O ye who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are an abomination,- of Satan's handwork: eschew such (abomination), that ye may prosper.

    So why would wine be in paradise to enjoy and swim on?
     
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    You will never find your answer about Jesus crucifixion in John 20:17, that verse is talking about something else. No where in John 20:17 that mention crucifixion;
    17Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

    This verse is about Jesus giving instruction to Mary Magdalene to inform His Apostles that He will ascend to God.

    If you are looking for Jesus crucifixion and why the Jews wanted Him kill, it is here in John 19:
    6 When the chief priests therefore and officers saw him, they cried out, saying, Crucify him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Take ye him, and crucify him: for I find no fault in him.

    7 The Jews answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God.

    16 Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified. And they took Jesus, and led him away.

    17 And he bearing his cross went forth into a place called the place of a skull, which is called in the Hebrew Golgotha:

    18 Where they crucified him, and two other with him, on either side one, and Jesus in the midst.

    30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.


    You will never find the full and true story of Jesus Christ in the Quran and this goes back to Sura 2:121 Those to whom We have sent the Book (Bible) study it as it should be studied: They are the ones (Christians) that believe therein: Those who reject faith (Muslims) therein,- the loss is their own. That is why Allah many times have told Mohammed and Muslims to study the Bible ask the Christians and then once they have done that recite (quran) the Book (Bible).
     
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    Response: Another failed rebuttal. The argument that the Qur'an got it wrong is disproven y your own bible that states that Jesus did not die in John 20:17 where Jesus says that he has not yet ascended to God, thus he was not crucified. Debunked as usual. Then you try to shoe fault in the qur'an when the qur'an prohibits intoxicants, not wine. Wine can be made without intoxicants. Debunked as usual again.

    Thus we see that Jesus was not crucified according to your own bible, as well as proof that the bible is not the word or inspired word of God from the folowing:

    Lev.14: 49-53- To clean the house from a plague, sprinkle the house with the blood of dead birds.

    Lev.12: 1-5- females are born double polluted than males.

    Luke 14:26- You must hate your family to be a disciple of Jesus.

    Ephes.5: 22-24- women must submit to their husbands.

    Isaiah 7:20 God shaves with a high razor.

    2 Samuels 22:11- God rides on a cherub.( Animal with wings or a naked female with wings).

    Then it gets even more disgusting.

    Ezekiel.16:8 God makes love to a young girl. Verses 16-34, she becomes a whore and 35-42, God punishes her out of jealousy.

    You really have to read this part. In 2Samuels 12:2-5, David sleeps with the Wife of Uriah and she conceives a child. Verses 6-13, King David invites Uriah over for a meal and afterwards he sleeps at the door of King David's house.

    Now watch this.

    Verses 14 - 27, David gives a letter to Uriah to give to Joab. The letter reads that Joab is to put Uriah on the frontline of the hottest battle so he can die. When he dies, he takes Uriah's mourning wife and marries her, and she bares his son. This displeased God.

    But wait. I'm not finished yet. It get's even more despicable.

    The next chapter, from verse 1-13, God sends Nathan to state to David that HE is displeased by the fact that David abused his authority by having s child with Uriah's wife and then having him killed. But.......God actually forgave David. Instead...............as verses 14- 18 read, God instead kills his newborn child!!

    What!!!

    2 Samuels 13: 10-14- David's son Amnon rapes his own sister Tamar.

    Thus the claim of distortion only further exposes your ducking and dodging to address the filth in your own bible that proves that it is not the word or inspired word of God. Thanks for the confirmation.
     
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    Response: Another failed rebuttal, for the weak argument saying that Jesus told Mary to tell his disciples that he would ascend proves that he never ascended to begin with. Thus your weak rebuttal proves again that Jesus was not crucified, but was alive. Furthermore, the verse says "say unto them, I ascend unto my Father", not "I will" ascend. The word "will" is no where mentioned in the statement. Your weak interpolation is exposed and debunked again.

    Thus the bible is clear that Jesus was not crucified from John 20:17 and the sign of Jonah, where Jesus says that he would be like Jonah in the whale. Jonah was alive in the whale and did not die. Therefore, so is Jesus. Debunked as usual.
     
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    I totally agree with you especially if we are to read the Bible like you, jumping from one verse to the another, one page to the other just like the quran that is not arrange in any order each verses are stand alone, I understand why you read like that. That is why Allah told Muslims to ASK the Christians because Allah knew that Muslims will not know how to read and understand His Bible.

    Still, as a debunker, distorter you are not doing a good job. All those Biblical verses are much Holy than sura 8, 9, 72, Satanic verses, and verses of virgin, wine and sex to all Muslim good Muslim souls.

    And so far, you have not been able to explain any of the legitimate quranic questions I have brought forward simple question as:
    1. Why did the Jews want to kill Jesus? if it wasn't Jesus Christ, who was it they killed?
    2. Why didn't Isa testify to Caiphas that he is not the son of Allah?
    3. Why didn't the spirit that appear to Mohammed and Mary did not introduce himself as Gabriel?
    4. Who are the Jinns in sura 72?
    5. Did Allah ever said to write a new book call Quran?
    6. Did Allah ever said to start a new religion called Islam?

    I am sure you won't be able to give a logical answer base on your quran because your quran is the word of Uthman and Mohammed not from Allah.

    Me, I have clearly answer all your questions but you refuse to read those Gospels that I have provided you, you still refuse to read John 19 that answer your question about Jesus Christ trial and crucifixion.
     
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    Response: Another failed rebuttal. For we still see that you can not justify the the disgrace in your own bible that proves that it is not the true word of God or inspired word. Questions of the Qur'an does not answer the atrocities in your own bible and the fact that your own bible shows that Jesus was not crucified, while your inability to demonstrate any error in the Qur'an supports the fact that it is the true word of Allah. Meanwhile we see the following evidence from your own bible:

    Jesus did not die, for in John 20:17 Jesus says that he has not yet ascended to God, thus he was not crucified. Debunked as usual. Furthermore, the sign of Jonah as well as Luke 24 further proves that Jesus was not crucified.

    Thus we see that Jesus was not crucified according to your own bible, as well as proof that the bible is not the word or inspired word of God from the folowing:

    Lev.14: 49-53- To clean the house from a plague, sprinkle the house with the blood of dead birds.

    Lev.12: 1-5- females are born double polluted than males.

    Luke 14:26- You must hate your family to be a disciple of Jesus.

    Ephes.5: 22-24- women must submit to their husbands.

    Isaiah 7:20 God shaves with a high razor.

    2 Samuels 22:11- God rides on a cherub.( Animal with wings or a naked female with wings).

    Then it gets even more disgusting.

    Ezekiel.16:8 God makes love to a young girl. Verses 16-34, she becomes a whore and 35-42, God punishes her out of jealousy.

    You really have to read this part. In 2Samuels 12:2-5, David sleeps with the Wife of Uriah and she conceives a child. Verses 6-13, King David invites Uriah over for a meal and afterwards he sleeps at the door of King David's house.

    Now watch this.

    Verses 14 - 27, David gives a letter to Uriah to give to Joab. The letter reads that Joab is to put Uriah on the frontline of the hottest battle so he can die. When he dies, he takes Uriah's mourning wife and marries her, and she bares his son. This displeased God.

    But wait. I'm not finished yet. It get's even more despicable.

    The next chapter, from verse 1-13, God sends Nathan to state to David that HE is displeased by the fact that David abused his authority by having s child with Uriah's wife and then having him killed. But.......God actually forgave David. Instead...............as verses 14- 18 read, God instead kills his newborn child!!

    What!!!

    2 Samuels 13: 10-14- David's son Amnon rapes his own sister Tamar.

    Thus the claim of distortion only further exposes your ducking and dodging to address the filth in your own bible that proves that it is not the word or inspired word of God. Thanks for the confirmation.
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    You are stone stuck at John 20:17, okay since you refuse to read John 19 this mean you are not interested in the crucifixion story of Jesus Christ.

    17Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

    Jesus has not yet ascended yet, good observation you are right. Then as we read the next words....

    = Jesus telling Mary to tell the Apostles.

    = you are again right, Jesus did not say "I will ascend", he said "I ascend" thus proves that Jesus ascended to God after talking to Mary.

    Jonah story has nothing to do with Jesus crucifixion, read John 19 about the crucifixion.

    This verse has nothing to do with Jesus crucifixion, read John 19 if you want to learn about the crucifixion.

    Now please answer:
    Sura 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Apostle of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not

    Why they want to kill Jesus Christ?
    If it wasn't Jesus according to Mohammed, then who was it that The Jews killed?

    sura 4:158 Nay,Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.

    I guess this sura conforms with John 20:17 that you are stone stuck about it. Both verse talk about Jesus ascension.


    Sura 2:121 Those to whom We have sent the Book study it as it should be studied

    Clearly you would agree this verse mean to read the Book (Bible and Quran) by not jumping from one verse to another read it in chronological order.:reading:
     
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    Thanks to my interaction with several online fundamentalist Muslims they have allowed me the opportunity to study several Quranic verses and history more attentively and spiritually. With the guidance of the Holy Spirit I began to understand more the true meanings of those verses. Unlike the Bible, most of the Quranic verses are stand alone they have no or little link in continuation with succeeding verses. Example is Sura 4 it has 176 verses all focus on different situation. Sura 4:157 – 159 these are the only three verses that briefly talks about crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ. For more details one have to read the Bible, gospel of John, Mark and Luke.

    [4:157] And for claiming that they killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of GOD. In fact, they never killed him, they never crucified him—they were made to think that they did. All factions who are disputing in this matter are full of doubt concerning this issue. They possess no knowledge; they only conjecture. For certain, they never killed him.

    [4:158] Instead, GOD raised him to Him; GOD is Almighty, Most Wise

    Here, after careful reading, I believe that Mohammed got it wrong and God was right, Mohammed believe there was a look a like that died in place of Jesus Christ that the Jews mistakenly killed the wrong guy and because of that Jesus escape death. Mohammed literally understood God's revelation that way.

    According to God, Jesus Christ did not die and that he was not crucified for how can they kill or crucify God? They can harm the body but not the spirit. That is why God said “they were made to think that they did” because what the Jews did was only hurt or punish the body.

    And God continue to say “they possess no knowledge; they only conjecture”. Jesus Christ have always taught that his Kingdom is not of this world and he also told both Caiphas and Pilate that their power comes only from God and no matter what Jesus said Caiphas will not believe. John 19: 11 Jesus answered, “You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above.

    The Jews crucify only a body they did not crucify God, Jesus Christ true nature is not the body that appears as Jesus Christ but the Spirit that is in the body. That is why God said “it appears or they were made to think that they did”

    Verse 4:157 will be follow with 4:158, Jesus Christ body will rise up because Jesus Christ was never dead, and God will raise himself (body of Jesus Christ) to Him.

    Quranic verse 4:147 – 158 seem to conform to the Bible, John 19: 11 Jesus answered, “You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore the one who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater sin.”

    John 19: 30 When he had received the drink, Jesus said, “It is finished.” With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.

    Jesus said, “it is finish” he did not said I am dead, Jesus spirit or ghost will leave his body to re-open the gates of paradise, by saying “it is finish” Jesus is signifying that his killers have failed.

    That is why God have many times reminded Mohammed to ask the Christians so that Mohammed will be able to understand the revelations properly that would conform with Bible.
     
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    Response: Yet the verse clearly says "I have not yet ascended", thus proving that Jesus did not ascend. Debunked as usual.

    Response: Yet the fact that Jesus rising from the dead after three days is a miracle and that Jesus says that he would perform a miracle of conquring death like Jonah proves that the Jonah story relates to surviving the crucifixion. Debunked as usual.

    Response: Strawman, thus not relevant.

    Response: The word "Bible" is mentioned no where in the Qur'an, clearly proving that the Qur'an does not refer to reading it, especially with its many discrepancies. Debunked as usual.
     
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    Response: Yet your own bible says that Jesus did not ascend to God in John: 20:17, thus proving from your own Bible that he did not die and was not crucified. Debunked as usual.
     
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    That is true, Jesus has not yet ascended to God, John 20:17 is right proving that the Bible is the Word of God.

    The Ascension can be found and read at Acts 1:9 -11
    9 And after He had said these things, a He was lifted up while they were looking on, and a cloud received Him out of their sight.
    10 And as they were gazing intently into the sky while He was going, behold, two men in white clothing stood beside them.
    11 They also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into the sky? This Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will ccome in just the same way as you have watched Him go into heaven.”


    While Muslims continue to deny that Jesus is God;
    [4:157] And for claiming that they killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of GOD. In fact, they never killed him, they never crucified him—they were made to think that they did. All factions who are disputing in this matter are full of doubt concerning this issue. They possess no knowledge; they only conjecture. For certain, they never killed him.

    [4:158] Instead, GOD raised him to Him; GOD is Almighty, Most Wise


    God has revealed that The Jews can not kill Jesus because Jesus is God and because Muslims lack the guidance of the Holy Spirit they failed to understood that instead they insist that a look a like another "god" took Jesus place to be crucified and that look alike never deny or testify to his accusers that he is not the Son of God for that he was crucified. That is why quran is not the word of God it is Mohammed's and Uthman's book.
     
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    Look, the Bible isn't like the qu'ran. The books of the bible tell a story best read from beginning to end. If you want to know what the bible says about Jesus, you have to read the gospel from beginning to end. You can't read chapter 20 followed by chapter 12 and then chapter 6. Read the whole gospel of John, I think it will make a bit more sense that way.
     
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    Response: You do not have to read a whole book to understand english or a contradiction.Thus the contradictions of the Bible and Jogn 20:17 can be easily understood without reading the entire bible.
     
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    Response: Yet John 20:17 of the Bible clearly says that Jesus did not yet ascend to God after the alleged crucufixion, thus proving from your own Bible that he was not crucufied and did not die. Debunked as usual.
     
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    Well, first off, you don't understand the context of the quote of John 20:17.

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    John 19:1 Then Pilate therefore took Jesus, and scourged him.
    John 19:2 And the soldiers platted a crown of thorns, and put it on his head, and they put on him a purple robe,
    John 19:3 And said, Hail, King of the Jews! and they smote him with their hands.
    John 19:4 Pilate therefore went forth again, and saith unto them, Behold, I bring him forth to you, that ye may know that I find no fault in him.
    John 19:5 Then came Jesus forth, wearing the crown of thorns, and the purple robe. And Pilate saith unto them, Behold the man!
    John 19:6 When the chief priests therefore and officers saw him, they cried out, saying, Crucify him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Take ye him, and crucify him: for I find no fault in him.
    John 19:7 The Jews answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God.
    John 19:8 When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he was the more afraid;
    John 19:9 And went again into the judgment hall, and saith unto Jesus, Whence art thou? But Jesus gave him no answer.
    John 19:10 Then saith Pilate unto him, Speakest thou not unto me? knowest thou not that I have power to crucify thee, and have power to release thee?
    John 19:11 Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.
    John 19:12 And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar's friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar.
    John 19:13 When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus forth, and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called the Pavement, but in the Hebrew, Gabbatha.
    John 19:14 And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!
    John 19:15 But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.
    John 19:16 Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified. And they took Jesus, and led him away.
    John 19:17 And he bearing his cross went forth into a place called the place of a skull, which is called in the Hebrew Golgotha:
    John 19:18 Where they crucified him, and two other with him, on either side one, and Jesus in the midst.
    John 19:19 And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And the writing was JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS.
    John 19:20 This title then read many of the Jews: for the place where Jesus was crucified was nigh to the city: and it was written in Hebrew, and Greek, and Latin.
    John 19:21 Then said the chief priests of the Jews to Pilate, Write not, The King of the Jews; but that he said, I am King of the Jews.
    John 19:22 Pilate answered, What I have written I have written.
    John 19:23 Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part; and also his coat: now the coat was without seam, woven from the top throughout.
    John 19:24 They said therefore among themselves, Let us not rend it, but cast lots for it, whose it shall be: that the scripture might be fulfilled, which saith, They parted my raiment among them, and for my vesture they did cast lots. These things therefore the soldiers did.
    John 19:25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.
    John 19:26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!
    John 19:27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.
    John 19:28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.
    John 19:29 Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth.
    John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
    John 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
    John 19:32 Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him.
    John 19:33 But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs:
    John 19:34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.
    John 19:35 And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.
    John 19:36 For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken.
    John 19:37 And again another scripture saith, They shall look on him whom they pierced.
    John 19:38 And after this Joseph of Arimathaea, being a disciple of Jesus, but secretly for fear of the Jews, besought Pilate that he might take away the body of Jesus: and Pilate gave him leave. He came therefore, and took the body of Jesus.
    John 19:39 And there came also Nicodemus, which at the first came to Jesus by night, and brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about an hundred pound weight.
    John 19:40 Then took they the body of Jesus, and wound it in linen clothes with the spices, as the manner of the Jews is to bury.
    John 19:41 Now in the place where he was crucified there was a garden; and in the garden a new sepulchre, wherein was never man yet laid.
    John 19:42 There laid they Jesus therefore because of the Jews' preparation day; for the sepulchre was nigh at hand.
     

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