Pay For Our Birth Control

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  1. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    way to duck the question
     
  2. Cigar

    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I told you ... they're not big on Science and Math ... and Facts!
     
  3. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    which of those require a prescription?
     
  4. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    not surprising, they seem to think they pay for everone in the nations private insurance policy or something
     
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    Except for shipping and handling which is more than the cost at the local drug store.
     
  6. mdrobster

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    Some facts and reality for this minor birth control issue regarding the financial side. Insurance plans are built and costed via some hard work done by actuaries.
    Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actuary
    Actuaries use skills in mathematics, economics, computer science, finance, probability and statistics, and business to help businesses assess the risk of certain events occurring and to formulate policies that minimize the cost of that risk. For this reason, actuaries are essential to the insurance and reinsurance industry,

    So when complaining about others lifestyles, look in the mirror, tell yourself what a perfect speciman you make. Because if one does have ability to complain about others' lifestyles, then they probably don't need insurance, because they obviously are in perfect health without a single vice, and reside in a near perfect environment.

    The moral issue is a completely different argument.
     
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    They've obviously haven't work at an Insurance company.
     
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    You already pay an insurance premium that covers others poor life styles and choices, and I doubt you live a perfect lifestyle, are in perfect health, so it is most probable we pay for your failings too.

    Its a lot easier to give advice than to take it.
     
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    You got that right, all they do is parrot RW slogans.
     
  10. LogikAndReazon

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    we want our birth contol, we want it now, and we want it at no cost to ourselves !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    its our "RIGHT" and we deserve it !!!

    parasitic human trash
     
  11. The Mello Guy

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    got it, if you buy insurance youre a parasite. any other brilliant insight youd like to add?
     
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    What a stupid comment. Nowhere was anything like that ever said.

    Perhaps I'll make an exception and suggest that your insurance plan start providing you brain supplements.
     
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    And another one.

    Here's the facts, corky: you don't like what your insurance covers? Get another focking policy, instead of simply demanding coverage for something not covered.
     
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    ---That's your problem, Don, you go into the wrong business. Become a lawmaker and enjoy the benefits of the FEHB:

    * Subsidized premium costs; tax payers cover 70% of your premium.
    *Access to doctors and clinics not available to the public
    *Instant coverage without regard to prior health conditions;you cannot be denied coverage
    *AND........coverage of Contraceptives!

    ---In 2008 taxpayers ponied up $15 billion to insure 8.5 million federal employees- talk about upper-class welfare. Don't be angry with women wanting a piece of the pie our lawmakers are dishing out to themselves, on YOUR dime. Ask yourself why you're playing the role of foot soldier down here in the trenches while your GOP leaders distill the sweat of your brow into massive health benefits for themselves. While you're at it, you might as well wonder why our government recently spent $230,000 dollars bailing out a UNIONIZED federal barbershop.

    ---Do you guys on the left and right ever feel like total marks? Complete suckers? I sure do when I learn of crap like this.
     
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    And - if your post is any indication - it's apparently a lot easier to make up things than it is to actually remain intellectually honest.
     
  16. The Mello Guy

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    nah, I like the way it was done better....but the suggestion is appreciated.
     
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    Of course. Because you liberals aren't about free choice. You're about forcing people to do as YOU wish.
     
  18. The Mello Guy

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    under RW definitions im sure thast the case

    but the right are the ones who think the civil rights act violated free choice
     
  19. LogikAndReazon

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    next thing you know these brain damaged women will be claiming that make-up, hair cuts and mani-pedi's are womens "health" issues that should be covered by insurance...............for the public good.........lol
     
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    I would agree with that. There is no defense for leftists on this. No one has a right to force an insurance company to pay for benefits that weren't spelled out in the insurance plan.

    That's incorrect. Regardless, I do not have a racist bone in my body, and I'm talking to you; no one else.

    Warning, Mello Guy: when you lose your intellectual honesty, it doesn't just screw up society. You will screw yourself up in the process. Perhaps your anger against those who wish to remain self-accountable will mask how you truly feel about yourself.

    Personally, were I you, I would be uncomfortable in my own skin knowing how dishonest I'm being in these conversations.
     
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    ---Our government just spent $230,000 bailing out a unionized, federal barbershop where our lawmakers pay $27 for a haircut. I'd say the precedent has been set.
     
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    One need look no farther than Greece to see examples of the degree of subsidization entitlement mentality that has plagued that country to understand you're correct.
     
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    Do liberals understand what personal responsibility is?
     
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    I did not make anything up, I provided links as to how your insurance premiuns are set. If you don't know these basics, you shouldn't be discussing them.

    The fact remains, you and I are paying for each others life styles, in fact the Insurance companies are not much different than a bookie covering his bets. Knowing these basic premises makes your argument moot. Insurance plans are comprehensive, and cover a slew of medical issues, to focus on one, and claiming just one issue is causing premiums to rise, demonstrates either the poster is ignorant od intellectually dishonest.

    Subdermal, this is basic stuff I am discussing here.
     
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    I thought I'd remind you of your fabrication. I know liberals have extremely short memories for that sort of thing.

    In case you need it pointed out to you, what I placed in bold is baseless assumption about someone's health you put up there.

    In addition, your posts blanket the real facts. Insurance utilizes actuarial algorithyms to determine the statistical probability of a number of ailments, including death. These algorithyms are heavily influenced by your own risk factors, and are determined by the results of your own checkups.

    Which is why insurance for a smoker costs more than for a non-smoker. That's just one of many examples.

    So - baseless as it was - your attempt to claim that you're paying for someone else's health problems isn't quite true. In fact, it's not true at all.

    Unless ObamaCare gets implemented. Then, of course, we're all on the hook for everything.

    Contraceptives shouldn't be an insurance issue at all.
     

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