Palestinian Statehood ( Part 4 )

The Israelis are getting everything they want without compromising. At this point they want a divided yet violent Palestine so that they can continue to get everything they want (accepting a few Israeli casualties as the price of doing business). The chance to have a real compromise treaty died with Rabin (who was murdered by a member of the Settler movement).

 

So you have no morality...Thanks for confirming it.

 

Part 4 of a thread located in the Latest News Forum...yawn.

It is like a broken record.

Morality doesn't matter. Can anyone force China to give up Tibet?

All some can do it bleat and justify the continued war and then calls themselves morally superior. Yawn again

 

The quickest way to fix the record is to recognize and accept the nations of Palestine and Israel along with everyone else. Until then, you'll have to continue whining.

Non-violent criticism is always better than violence, even when it takes longer.

Is this an expression of self-criticism? Everyone else recognizes and accepts the nations of Palestine and Israel. You could do so too. Accepting the nations of Palestine and Israel, like everyone else, does not encourage war.

 

Correction, Hamas still refuses to acknowledge Israels right to exist as the land of the Jews.

 

Bad spin. Hamas, along with the overwhelming majority of other concerned parties, refuse to accept a jewish State. That's a far cry from a jewish homeland. Israelis are free to call Israel a homeland if they choose. What they are NOT free to do is to impose a jewish State upon 25% of Israelis who are not jewish.

Don't tell me- you don't see any difference, right ?

 

There are enough somnambulists creeping about and crapping in threads already.

 

tit for tat.

Are being deliberately obtuse? What law needs to be applied, and by whom and how? Are you seriously suggesting the UN security council put together a coalition of the willing and invade Israel?

Do you have many wet dreams?

 

I agree. Bibi and his crowd will never make peace and the rightly or wrongly Jews have consistently and deliberately outmaneouvered the palestinians.

they are sitting back pointing their fingers and saying "we can't make peace with a fractured peoples - who do we trust"..Plays quite well in the world media.

And yet the palestinians keep trying to draw to an inside straight.

 

What Isreal imposes in Israel is none of Hamas's business. If they want a Palestinian state they must acknowledge the Jewish one first.

 

So what your saying is that Hamas refuses to accept Israel as a jewish state, but is more than happy to accept Palestine as an Islamic one.

Hamas' position is equivalent to refusing to accept Israel period, since Israel will always be a jewish state, unless Hamas and the gang can militarily defeat Israel. so, its no sweat to play semantics.

Kinda like claiming the goal of the liberation of palestine - which is code for destruction of the Israeli state.


don't tell me, you don't see anything wrong with that.

 

Chalk and cheese. The Palestinian State will not be a theocracy and it will be democratic. There's absolutely no requirement for them to accept a non-democratic fascist theocracy as neighbors.
Why do I say ' non-democratic ' ? Because 25% of Israelis are not jewish.

 

Can it be possible that so many people aren't aware that Israel doesn't even comprise a jewish population. 25% of Israeli citizens are not jewish. That percentage is increasing. There isn't any jewish State to recognize.

 

The runner up to the queen was 'christian arab'.

'isn't it ironic'

 

Look fella... the so called Phalustinians are a minority in Israel...
They can rebel if they want, they can wish for a civil war, they can fight a battle for Jewish annihilation if they chose to... they will be clobbered, decimated or perhaps completely annihilated, the Jews/Israeli have had enough of their shenanigan for 65 years, they will be thrown out exactly like the Muslims of Andalous, and Charles Martel routing the Arab hordes from France.

 

Speaking of morality...
Arabs have killed a whole family (the Fogel Family)...
They stone cars on the road.
They have knifed civilians stabbing them in the back...
Tractor Drivers (Arabs) have deliberately hit buses with civilians,,,
Taxi drivers (Arabs) make it fashionable to run over pedestrians in Jerusalem...

Enough is enough I want these people put against the wall and shot as an example to others similar future murderers.

 

I managed to get a footage of these stone throwing assassins

Stoning
http://bit.ly/x1vUgb

 

and Israelis have murdered tens of thousands of Arabs,they have murdered children,women,massacred whole villages. They torture,imprison without trial,use military law against civilians. They abuse human rights everyday of the week and they lie about it all the time.They have used children as human shields,they harass Arabs everyday,they murder them all the time,they even target journalists.

 

gaza is a 1.6 million soul concentration camp of refugees uprooted by the israelis pursuits............. what more evidence is required?


Heck if asad isolated 1.6 million and told them they cant fight the government, the world would be talking about wiping out the asad regime.

Could you imagine if a movement in iran started whining and shooting rocks into tehran....... israel and the US would be siding with them rebels and call it 'green'.............,,,,


When are people going to look at it, that israel has been doing all the nasties and worse, to 'its' own people for over half a century.



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I smell bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

 

Well, first off, they aren't "occupied" -- they've been under the rule of their own elected officials since at least the mid-1990's. If that's "occupied" I live in "Occupied America". Secondly, why is it that no Arab state can take in a few thousand refugees when Israel can absorb 10,000+ Jews every year?

Long story short, the reason that "Palestine" is an issue is because the Arabs want a sledgehammer with which to beat Israel. There's no reason for a conflict other then Islamofascists trying to curry sympathy with the West by deliberately creating Palestinian camps and not assimilating them into the greater Arab world.

Likud has no power over Palestine. They should blame Jordan and Syria and Egypt for creating their crisis.

 

I wouldn't go THAT far. You're being too hard on yourself.

 

There's an entire thread still running that shows they are. Get familiar with it and join the enlightened.

 

And there are non muslims in islamic states? What's your point? There's tons of non-christians in christian states as well.

There is a jewish state and it doesn't matter if the palestinians or Hamas or anyone else wont' recognize it, cause it exists.

You certainly enjoy double standards.

 

No, it was a demonstration of democracy. Bet a jew couldn't win squat in any arab country.

Isn't that ironic.