Why does not God shows himself?

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  1. gophangover

    gophangover Well-Known Member

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    God is "THE TRUTH". But people can't handle "THE TRUTH". They would rather hold on to their own "DOGMAS". So they can't see "THE TRUTH" that's right in front of their faces. But when you die, you have to face "THE TRUTH". That's why people are afraid of dying, and don't like to think about it.
     
  2. Marlowe

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    Looks like you've misread /misunderstood - grabbed the wrong end of yr mace .

    . - I DID NOT SAY THAT I WAS Turning the other cheek - Please go back on the thread and check the post I responded to.

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  3. Marlowe

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    That's god's problem - he should have done a better job (if) when he created us.
    TRUTH ? LOL - One man's TRUTH is no more than another man's lies. Many a scoundrel have sworn on the Bible to speak the TRUTH.

    Afraid of dying ? what's the point of fearing the inevitable ? You know what the say abt death + taxes . (wink)

    However your god has landed us with enough problems in this life than to worry about what's going to happen in the next/after life.

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    Gather ye rose-buds while ye may,

    Old Time is still a flying:

    And this same flower that smiles today,

    Tomorrow will be dying.


    The glorious lamp of heaven, the sun,

    The higher he's a getting;

    The sooner will his race be run,

    And nearer he's to setting.


    That age is best, which is the first,

    When youth and blood are warmer;

    But being spent, the worse, and worst

    Times, still succeed the former.


    Then be not coy, but use your time;

    And while ye may, go marry:

    For having lost but once your prime,

    You may forever tarry.

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    Tatty-byeeee


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  4. gophangover

    gophangover Well-Known Member

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    You confuse truth with opinion. Just because someone "believes" the world is flat doesn't make it the truth. So it doesn't matter what any one thinks the truth is, it is what it is.
     
  5. Independent77

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    For those who choose to believe, God has shown Himself over and over again.

    For those who choose not to believe, God has shown himself but not so strongly that the showing will overcome the self imposed blindness and deafness of those who choose not to believe.
     
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    And you confuse your BELIEF , which you decide to label as Truth , with incontrovertible Truth .
    Whether you believe it or not , you are the Dogmatic ones .You have a Dogma which you cannot prove but you are happy believing it .
    Tell it as it is . Not as though you know something .
     
  7. gophangover

    gophangover Well-Known Member

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    The truth is the truth, no matter what ANYONE believes. That includes myself. Only a moron would confuse that with BELIEF.
     
  8. dattaswami

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    God comes in Human form and shows Himself to us.

    God comes only in Human form

    The design of medium is important to serve the purpose. The human being has the required design suitable to preach the divine knowledge. Therefore, the human form is selected by God. In order to get circulation of air, the design of fan is important for the current to serve the purpose. If the current enters the radio, you cannot get the circulated air. Similarly, if God enters the inert objects, the purpose for which He came down is not served since stones can neither speak nor receive the service of devotees directly. Stones have their own design and purpose like building a house in which the human incarnation can live.

    You wish that the current should enter the radio and give the air by some super technology. When fan is available, no fool wishes and no fool does like that. Even if a fool wishes, it will not be done since doing it by some super technology is more foolishness. Similarly, you should not desire that God should enter the statue to receive your service and guide you by divine knowledge by using His superpower. Even if you are rigid, God is not a fool to do it, when a natural and alternative facility is available for such purpose.
     
  9. Terrant

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    Yes, use a book that is a collection of stories, historical accounts, and prophecies that was selected by committee, translated numerous times, and rewritten many times (sometimes with political/social agendas). Even if one was to assume that the Bible was originally the word of God, his word has long been diluted by the word of man.

    If you want an infallible and unchangeable expression of God; look to Creation itself.

    There have been countless virgin births and countless men claiming to be god throughout history. Why should he be considered any different beyond the words in a book penned by man?
     
  10. montra

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    Biblically, God "proved" he existed to Adam and Eve, then they lost faith in him and ate the forbidden fruit. God "proved" himself to the Israelites as they watched the plagues ravage Egypt, and then the Red Sea split before them, then have manna drop from heaven to eat, then they lost faith and built a golden calf to worship instead.

    Although I'm sure you scoff at these stories, a message is being sent here. What God may be after is not our intellectual consent that he exists, rather, he is wanting us to place our faith in him.

    It would be akin to placing your faith in a loved one. You believe that they have your best intentions and you place your faith in them accordingly. It's called relationship.
     
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    Why God has to come in human form at allÂ…

    God is unimaginable and hence, cannot be even imagined by even sharp intelligence. Therefore, there is no possibility of any kind of interaction with God. God knows all of us, but, we can never know God. Hence, the interaction with unimaginable God is one sided only. But, we like to have an interaction, which is in both sides. We like to know, see, talk, touch and live with God. We like to serve God because service is the practical proof of love or devotion to God. For this purpose, God comes down in the same medium in which we exist.

    Hence, God comes in human form. If God comes in the form of an inert object, our service becomes impossible. For the sake of inert objects, He has to come in the inert form. But, the inert objects do not interact at all. If He comes down as a bird or animal, the birds and animals may interact and the human beings cannot interact. In such case, you cannot talk with God since you cannot talk with a bird or animal. We cannot clarify our doubts with God in such case.

    If God comes down in the energetic form, we cannot touch God and cannot live with Him for a long time. Therefore, the human form is the best suited to the human beings. The energetic form of God is relevant to the departed souls existing in the energetic bodies in the upper worlds. But, the human form of God is not easily available. Even if it is easily available, most of the human beings suffer with ego and jealousy towards a co-human form. Any human being does not agree the greatness of a co-human being.

    Therefore, the human incarnation interacts with those few selected devotees only, who conquered the ego and jealousy. For other human beings, the human incarnation behaves like a co-human being only following the usual social norms. Krishna behaved like a human being only with all the people and behaved like God for His close devotees. Therefore, God comes down for the needy only.
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    Universal Spirituality for World Peace
     
  12. Anobsitar

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    Astonishing - you are still able to speak. Must be something wrong with my mace. Now I know why my ancestors used menhirs instead. No problem.

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    http://youtu.be/UAnPp6sHuQo
     
  13. kilgram

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    Why we can never interact with God? If we can't then the most probable and logic is that the is just a creation of human imagination.

    If god acts like a human in this world that is not proof of his existence just the proof of a lunatic human.
     
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    Well you just did voluntarily , so I am entitled to call you a Moron , which you proved so excellently .
    Just to help you out .
    You have a Faith , in which you believe
    Good for you .
    But do not delude yourself you can upgrade it to a Truth just because you don't understand the meaning of words .
    That would indeed be moronic
    QED
     
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    Good Lord .
    Two volunteer Morons in one day .
    This is better than fishing .
    See above
    I can't be dealing with self confessed Morons all day .
     
  17. kilgram

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    We in this context is the humans. If tjis God is so powerful I don't understand why he does not show himself to whole humanity.
     
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    A belief can be right or wrong - depending on objective facts. Someone is for examole able to believe that god is existing - while god is indeed not existing - or someone else is able to believe that god is not existing - while god is indeed existing. No one knows. If "moronism" would be a crime - whom would you arrest? A Christian who says "I believe in god" or an atheist who says "Everyone who believes in god is an idiot"?

    http://youtu.be/R3me6ifiaNY
     
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    No atheist would say that a believer is a criminal idiot. Sometimes an idiot because is believe in something that you don't have any proof.
     
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    So I'm not a human being in your definition of human beings.
     
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    ??? Eh? Why do you say that?

    You are human, like everybody.
     
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    Dream a little dream, Martian. Your "we" means "we - without Anobsitar".

    http://youtu.be/zVFGv4EeHX4
     
  23. gophangover

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    Thick as a brick aren't you. Again, the truth is the truth. My faith is in the truth. And you claiming that I don't know the difference only shows where you put your faith. Sucks to be you.
     
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    As I said before, when he has shown himself to the world it did him precious little good in terms of people placing their faith in him. Sure, they believed he existed, but that is not the same as placing faith in someone.
     
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    God is afriad, that Neutal might freak out and calll God a "Atheist"
     
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