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Yawn..................... yes that was really, zzzzzzzzzzzzzz....What's the IQ of people who joined the military? Very very low. I suppose when you cannot get a job elsewhere you have to kill people for a living.

 

Yet another stupid ass comment...

Can you show us something that proves that people in the military have lower IQ's?

Of course you can't, because it's just another of your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) claims...

 

Well you should know about that you write enough of them.

 

Good response...

When you're correct about anything, get back to me...

Now I'll ask again...

Do you have ANY PROOF AT ALL that people in the military have a lower IQ than the population at large?

Of course you don't, so, please, spare yourself the embarassment of replying again and further embarrassing yourself...

 

Do you have evidence that those in the military have lower IQ's?

I'd venture to say that most are smarter than the average bear...sure you've got your occasional rocks, but the best and brightest often serve.

 

Yes,read some of their posts on here. Start with yours.

 

I know......

 

I'll be glad to compare curriculum vitae...or plural curricula vitarum.

 

Got it...

So, you have no evidence (yet again) of your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) claims, yet, you continue to make them...

You should do us all a favor and have the mods delete your account...

 

Wanna address my post at all, or, does it bother that you've been shown to have absolutely nothing to back up your claims, yet again?

 

Don't feed the trolls. The military probably rejected him or her, and they've held a grudge.
That's often the case with the haters. Sour grapes.

 

Maybe that's what it is...

Sad really...

 

I agree, I should really stop answering you.

 

You know, back to the OP, regardless of anything that happened, these people won't be able to sue the government...

It's not allowed from current or former service members...

/thread???

 

First off let me start off by saying that I did not intend for this thread to turn out this way, and regardless of what anyone thinks, this was not an attempt to demean the military. My dad served in Nam, and my husband has done two tours in Iraq, and has done several other deployments. I don't like a lot of the changes, cuts , the ''progressive'' stance the military seems to be taking lately, but with anything you take the good with the bad. I love this life and wouldn't trade it for any another. However I am not so biased that I can't be objective. I know cops who will defend and talk till they are blue in the face by trying to convince others a crooked cop is straight when all of the eveidence shows otherwise.

I don't think most servicemembers are running around raping, but I do believe too many are. I believe more are serving with integrity and honor.

This article just hit home for personal reasons and I thought we could try to have a discussion surrounding the story in my ''link''(not one from 5 pages ago that isn't related and I did not see).

 

You're right they won't be successful with their suit, but maybe they are doing this on principle. Maybe they are trying to bring awareness to a serious situation.

 

I didn't see any evidence of you trying to bash the military...

But, I don't believe this is anymore of a problem than it is in the civilian sector...

A problem?

Yes... Rape/SA should always be viewed as such...

Rampant in the military?

Not so much...

Like I said, it is definitely serious...

Rape/SA always is...

I think the problem most had in this thread is that there were posters trying to insinuate that the military is this unstoppable rape machine...

Not you, but others...

By the worst legit numbers presented, the rate of SA in the military is abour equal to the civilian sector, which shouldn't be a surprise, since, typically, the makeup of the military is the same as civilians...

 

This actually isn't true at all in regards to sexual assault/rape. Healthy males and females between the ages of 18-45ish are much more likely to be perpetrators and victims of sexual assault/rape. This skews the data significantly AGAINST the military. The civilian population includes an older demographic, significantly less men, as well as disabled people and children.

 

I'm afraid that awareness is unwelcome, as shining a bright enough light for long enough cannot help but reveal to the nation that the US military has faced no greater enemy in the last half century than its civilian leadership, which for political purposes has burdened it with "reforms" which serve only to weaken it - not the least of which is compelling men to serve alongside women.

 

I still believe the issue here is fear of reprisal. In over 80 - 90% of sexual assaults the victim knows the perpetrator. Imagine if it's a junior enlisted assaulted by a superior. He or she is afraid of this becoming a "he said", "she said" situation...or that he or she put themselves in a bad situation and is to blame.

There's a stigma associated with reporting these sort of crimes...many will side with the man and claim the woman just wants to ruin their career and/or has a personal beef with them...

So most victims stay silent...

Now imagine if you have to work around and be around the person who sexually assaulted you. Say it's a 24/7 situation...

It's why some liken service member on service member sexual assaults to incest. It's assaulting a member of your own family. It will severely damage esprit de corps...

(*)(*)(*)(*) bums will always slip through the cracks and commit a crime while in the service...the key is to remove the stigma of reporting for the victim of a sexual assault and separate the perpetrator from the service...forever.

I realize some will argue that a false charge is just as damaging, a career is ruined by someone who just held a grudge. False charges should be handled the same, separate that person from the service.

 

Very good point...

 

A woman applied for a job, I didn't hire her, she sued me in federal court for sexual discrimination. I thought the fact that the person I hired for the job was a fairly good defense but the lawsuit plodded on and eventually cost most of a week in federal court and thousands of dollars.

Of course, the plaintiff was eager to settle out of court and the plaintiff's lawyer even more eager. The lawyers involved kept pointing out how acceding to extortion was the "smart" way to go. I refused, we went to court, the plaintiff lost and got nothing and her shylock got nothing.

So, I do not consider filing a lawsuit to be proof of anything other than a greedy attorney--always--and a possibly greedy plaintiff.

 

Also, in this case, it's a lawsuit that we already know is not allowed...

Very strange, indeed...

 

The lawsuit is blowing smoke and won't go anywhere...
In the initial discussion of the thread, I already brought up the Feres Doctrine established in 1950 by a Supreme Court decision. A service member can't sue the government/military for injuries sustained...I would assume this can be interpreted to apply to sexual assaults.

The Feres Doctrine has stood up to all challenges since then, including most recently a service member who died as a result of medical malpractice from a military doctor.

You can't win...

I was diagnosed with advanced prostate cancer in my early 40's...
The inboard elevator counterbalance weight of some models of C-130's are cast depleted uranium. (later replaced by tungsten)

Did extended exposure cause the cancer?

Who knows, but I realized there is no point in challenging the government on that.

 

Exactly...

No chance for this one...

BTW, sorry to hear about the diagnosis...

Hope it either works out well, or, has already done so...