Why are Western Men so effeminate nowadays?

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Why are Western Men so effeminate nowadays?

Poll closed Jan 13, 2013.
  1. Endless Marxist, anti-male, anti-Western indoctrination from a young age

    14 vote(s)
    28.6%
  2. Traditional male roles are sexist; men need to adapt to a newer, gender neutral society

    4 vote(s)
    8.2%
  3. Male careers no longer involve brute strength, stamina or negotiating skills

    4 vote(s)
    8.2%
  4. The computer spawned generations of closeted, childish, impotent males

    3 vote(s)
    6.1%
  5. The ecstasy of being spoiled rotten from birth leads to many exuberant alternative lifestyles

    6 vote(s)
    12.2%
  6. There is no ongoing attack on masculinity and traditional male roles

    8 vote(s)
    16.3%
  7. "Other"

    10 vote(s)
    20.4%
  1. Polar Bear

    Polar Bear New Member

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    (Biological) + (differences)... Whoa, that will get you into trouble, the way you have arranged those two words next to one another...

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  2. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Plenty of THESE guys "play for the other team" too!

    Feminists have nothing to do with it.
     
  3. septimine

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    I think it's a few things.

    First off, business has changed a lot. In the days before feminism came to the fore in business, it was a rough and tumble men's world. It was not a place where you were expected to hide your masculinity. Business was tough, and if you weren't good at business, you lost. Now you can be good at business but lose because you put up a pin-up girl calender in the office.

    Second, as traditional christianity and traditional western culture has come more and more under attack, the ideals of masculine and feminine became suspect as well. The ideal taught by the church was that men were the leaders, heads of the family, and worked for a living. As the stuffy bible was removed, those ideas became seen as limiting, wrong, and backwards.

    thirdly, cutbacks in schools coupled with title 9 and fear of lawsuits have removed sports from schoolyards. This means that males no longer grow up learning to compete for what they want. Men who don't compete tend to lose at competitions and thus avoid it. Then they tend to think no one can compete because they can't and thus feel the need to try to rig the game to make it "fair" for everyone else.

    What's weird to me is that both extremes seem to be coming out. One the one hand are the girly men, the ones the OP is talking about. But, there is the other extreme as well -- extreme sports and MMA and death defying stunts done by men of the same age. I think all i can say is that our boys have no idea what real manhood is.
     
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    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    Being ignorant isn't something to brag about.

    All 4 of those have merit.
     
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    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    its what happens to the men when they give the women voting rights and more privileges

    that is why the muslim middle eastern men are not effeminate
     
  6. RiseAgainst

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    We have a winner...
     
  7. Iolo

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    Why are Western Men so effeminate nowadays?

    They aren't - only American conservatives. It is because Senator McCarthy invented an operation that is somehow passed down the right-wing generations like a curse. It causes the victims to spend their lives squeaking with ludicrous indignation at any real male while beating their hollow chests and shooting everyone and his dog.
     
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    Wow. Do you realize that if there were actually any truth to this, you would have just made a great argument for the repeal of women's suffrage?

    You are aware that nature designed men to be masculine and not feminine, correct?
     
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    it is the truth western men become effeminate when women have more rights, that isn't neccessarily a bad thing though

    nature did not make all men masculine some are very feminine and some are even transgender at birth

    as man evolves they will become more woman like because there would be no need for them to work out in the fields, hunt for food, and farm.
     
  10. Polar Bear

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    Sounds like a liberal wet dream: "A genderless, multi-racial Utopia with no traditional male roles where whites, especially white men, are taxed to death and proud of it!"


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    Metrosexuals. The result of many modern males being raised by women in single parent households.
     
  12. Polar Bear

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    On the contrary I have seen more than one full blown male who adopted "metrosexual" ways because he hated his overbearing father.
     
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    How are Western men any less masculine than they have always been? I've always thought men come in different "flavors" so to speak, and all had different personalities. Maybe there are varying levels of masculinity/femininity depending on the person?

    I have not noticed any change in the number of "masculine" men.

    Yeah there aren't a whole lot muscled up guys who have to hunt for food with a spear anymore but that's just a result of technology. Also "effeminate" seems to be kind of relative. What do you MEAN by effeminate? Depending on your definition this can mean anything from a shy guy who prefers books over sports to a man who cross dresses.

    Also effeminate behavior in men is not exclusive to this time. Remember in the 18th century, men and woman alike wore powered wigs, and painted their faces.
     
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    Seriously... How many nonsense to read. Men are men and will be men forever like women are women and will be women forever.

    Multiracial? Humans are monoracial, just there is one race: human race.

    And what are the traditional "male" roles? And what are the traditional "female" roles?
     
  15. Polar Bear

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    Really?

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    Stop ignoring 10,000 years of recorded history, men are providers and women are nurturers. Men who cannot provide will not procreate. At least that is how it used to be.




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    What are you trying to prove with that. What do you mean with that? I don't see differences. Just two humans.

    Or are you trying to make some racist affirmation with these two photos? Explain me.
     
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    Except, due to all the evolution humans developed brains far superior to other spiecies, allowing us to mechanise manual tasks. meaning men no need to be "providers" as we provide with our brains nowadays.

    So basically, you are wrong.
     
  18. Polar Bear

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    My question is this:

    If women can take the place of sole bread winner, as they so often do nowadays, why do single mother households produce such a wretched crop of young adults? Children who grow up in fatherless homes are much more likely to use drugs, drop out of school, commit crime, and become wards of the state later in life.

    Are traditional father roles really that expendable after all?






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    A LIEberrhoidal punk, obviously.
     
  20. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Looks a perfectly normal young man to me. Didn't he care for you?
     
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    lol please shut the (*)(*)(*)(*) up sexist (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    It's been in the plans all along. It's easier to control a bunch of pansies.
     
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    I don't see differences. Just two humans.

    Why do the LIEberrhoidals have to LIE ?????
     
  24. RiseAgainst

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    Gotta be honest...I thought I was observing an ape at first...even second glance.
     
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    Interesting question, albeit none of your options really best expressed my views.

    So I voted for 'other'.

    You see, the question makes the assumption that Western men have become 'effemeniate'.

    How do we measure if that is true?

    I don't think it possible.

    I do believe what we have seen though, is a power shift among genders.

    And probably a good thing, since historically, women's 'role' beforehand was somewhat limiting, and not just.

    The difficulty has been that in some ways, the power shift was gone too much the other way, with men often being held up as the blame for all ills.

    Watch a domestic violence ad. Never will it show the women as the wrong doer. Always the man. That is not a fair reflection on domestic abuse.

    Note how men get very little fairness if they get divorced, are a good father, and decide to try for custody.

    In most cases, the courts favour the women, no matter what.

    You can imagine the outcry if this disparity existed in any other form, yet no one really speaks out for men, albeit there are some groups that do.

    When a man has an affair, he is always the evil one, and his motives must purely have been sexual, or some flaw in him - at least that is the female consensus.

    However, when a women has the affair, she still gets the sympathy vote, as her 'emotional needs were not being met'.
     

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