The state of play ,a US Soldier shoots 16 Afghanistan citizens ,MASS MURDER,he is taken out of the country ,so that THE GOVERNMENT of AFGHANISTAN ,and the Afghan people cannot establish the truth . The President ,not just any old person ,the President of Afghanistan says he 'Didnt act alone"the villages who witnessed the events want to know who the other soldiers were ? So to cover up the Mass murders and as Karzai says the other 100's of similar mass murders ,any opurtunity to have an open public trial is being opposed by the US Military and Government. What they are hiding is that He did not ,and could not have done this heinous act alone . The US Goverbnment and military are systematically covering up 100's of similar cases of Mass murder . So when will this Illegal War ,War without exit stradegy ,War with no goal.END! Or do you 'Democratically UNmided Americans "support your Troops killing Innocent women and children just as the Hobby that they have . My brother who has been to Afghaniustan 3 times is right ,"whatever the government says is Bull(*)(*)(*)(*) ,phil,Its an umitigated out of control Bloodbath" As a Operating theater Nurse he couldn't go back the 4th time as the little girls with gunshot wounds from US ammunition ,reminded him of his own daughters. My other brother who went as a Ambulance driver is dealing with his PTSD,recovering but getting there. Oh i do not think that the Australian Military is exempt from being suspect of War crimes they are just as Putrid. Feel good that the US Military has death squads now ? George Bush is the biggest Mass murdering War criminal of the 21st century. Mass murdering War Criminals deserve DEATH. Put Bush on trial for War Crimes then execute the thing . http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/mar2012/pers-m20.shtml
He and his cronies like Cheney were directly responsible for this thing that is called a War but is not a War but a Genocide. who sent the US Military Butchers of Babies to afghanistan ?post 911,der. whats the statute of limitations of crimes against humanity ,last time I looked the Presidents and leaders of nations that carry out War crimes are Held responsible in office or out . Eg Sadam Hussein ,OBL,Molosovich,Goring ,Hesse,KONY. stop looking for African War criminals like KONY ,could the United states deal with its OWN WAR CRIMINAL BABY KILLERS FIRST PLEASE ! The United States defends BABY KILLERS . Happy with that? Are you acting on the truth of that ,yes your GI's are Baby killers gee ,it takes real hero's to Kill 2year olds. Pin some medals on these boys ,Baby killer 1st class with 9 clasps ,how about as bales Has returned ,How about a Ticker tape parade a national Baby Killing celebration . Who are the Sicko's in Afghanistan?The people of afghanistan who Live and increasing die in their HOMES,or the Death Squads of Us Soldiers who Murder Babies in cold blood . Bugger ,not soldiers MURDERERS,no honour ,no sembulance of humanity ,just War against BABY's. Thanks George Bush ,Thanks Obama . Thanks John Howard thanks Gillard. This now goes on the Tab ,anyone who supports the War in Afghanistan now defends the cold blooded murder of children ,do you support the continuing of the War ,or unconditional withdrawal ,do you defend children or do you Hate Children Your chioce and its that simple.
It was known by many of us , and from the very start , that what you allege occurred . Surely, the key discussion point is whether the US Military and Govt . are right to cover it up .Shouldn't Real Politic rule , rather than ethical or even moral considerations . For the sake of the country , global image and the morale of both the Military and general public , there is a reasonable argument for lying . The fact that the US should never have been there in the first place is something that needs putting aside until History needs to make judgements . What advantage is there in telling the truth if you can convince the majority of a different narrative ? What advantages do you think the US will gain by telling the truth ?
A commendable thought . But when shouted publicly it might lead to him being run over . I think the Gov't should find him a tip top lawyer ( one of their own) and discover that he has suffered a complete break down and is not fit for trial . Do a Manning , in effect
When a Muslim kills a bunch of civilians its a random nut job, and we should not pass judgement on the other billion Muslims......but some Army Dog whacks a family and the entire USAF are baby killers.......interesting....
Democracy has many forms or is he now labelled a Socialist\Liberal lawyer? No maybe a good lawyer they exist .Anyway the Courtcase will further divide the Nation may well be the straw that breaks the camels back who knows.?
No the USAF does its Toddler killing with Cluster bombs ,as when the Children are about 3-7 they like picking up the Bomblets. Anything under 3 is the army's job. Yes the US Military is to blame from the top down ,not the bottom up lets put his superiors who had him there in the first place I reckon.
We, the American People, are his superiors and WE sent him to Afghanistan. Obviously you weren't around on September 12th, 2001 when Americans AS A PEOPLE decided to go to war in Afghanistan. We, the American People, called for revenge against Osama Bin laden, his organization, and the Taliban who supported him. What ya gonna do boy? Put 310 million people on trial? How can you blame Bush for what the American People forced him to do? You act as if we, the American People, didn't have a say or that we didn't make the choice as a whole nation to go to war. All those flags on all those porches says differently.
Hey,in the Land of OZ called the australian parliament,the "Politicans"haven't even had a debate . to this day Neither on iraq and Afghanistan NO DEBATE,VOTE nor more then mere mention has been made to date ,in the Parliament. Oh well ,stupid is what stupid does. They are now threatening War with sabre rattling at New Guinea,Presidentially Appointed Foriegn Minister Carr,first threatens Sanctions then puts the australian army on alert to defend mining and Petrochemical intresets of Australian companies and trans-nationals. He has been in the job bearly 2 weeks.
It is going to be very difficult for the US military to prosecute Bales because the Afghan govt. is not giving the Americans access to the sites or the witnesses. At this rate the US military will have no evidence for prosecution absent a guilty plea.
Perhaps thats a Case for joint prosecution in Afghanistan,he faces the death penalty either way ,and it would placate the explosive situation smoldering if not already exploding. Do the "Rights" of the agrieved Afghanistan people get any thought at all? I can assure you that if the reverse was the case then the perpertrator would be tried in the USA.
I don't get these posts. People yell about how the US military is a bunch of murderers when clearly we are not. People (*)(*)(*)(*) and moan about civilians being killed which, while bad, is something that is unavoidable in war. I don't see the same people (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about the UN raping people. I don't see the same people (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about the Afghani police force using their women officers as prostitutes or madams. I don't see these people (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about groups in Africa running around cutting off breasts with machetes and using children as soldiers. The US military actively tries to minimize civilian casualties through training, use of smart weapons, and decisions on how, where and when they will strike. Despite this they continuously are talked about as though they are on some insane murderous rampage. Does bad (*)(*)(*)(*) like this happen, you bet. Every war has its warcrimes and criminals. Does that mean the entire military is some sort of murderous entity, no. This kind of (*)(*)(*)(*) is annoying. You cannot put the US military on the same level or below entities that rape and murder as a daily part of the job. War is ugly, yes, but if I were to be in an area invaded by a military, I'd prefer it be the US military over any other military that I can think of off the top of my head. Why? Simple, I know that so long as I'm not in a combat zone and I do what they say I 99.9% of the time I'll be fine. Chances are no one will outright murder me and no one will gang rape my friends. If they kill/(*)(*)(*)(*) me over it will likely be because some action took place by where I live and I was killed by a stray munition, same as it would be with any military. I will say though that there is one issue we have; we do a (*)(*)(*)(*) poor job of punishing violators. That said though I'm much more pissed about the fact that we torture people than that we've killed civilians in a warzone. That is a part of war. I don't like it, I wish we could just fight wars in the middle of nowhere where no one other than combatants could be injured or killed, but that is not the reality of the situation. If anything I feel sorry for those who have lost people, on all sides, and I wish humanity as a whole could stop killing/violating each other. Unfortunately that will never happen.